The LNP have been irrelevant since Turnbull; and now, more than ever, are a bunch of self interested gutless sycophants and toadies, bowing to Left lunacy.
Good riddance to bad rubbish. Sooner jettisoned completely to the dust bin of history the better, instead of the lingering death which divides the opposition into warring parties.

Despite their policy on Net Zero, Liberals remain Labor-lite on economy-killing climate and emissions rubbish, and on immigration (piddling reductions in spite of rising unemployment and infrastructure and increasing congestion).

Liberals are just as much for big government as Labor.

Energy production should be a purely competitive private enterprise, with the cheapest and most reliable winning, no matter what fuels it. No government interference and no taxpayer subsidies.

Genuine community benefit is best secured by competitive, productive industries that can stand on their own feet. Secure jobs come from firms with real markets, not firms dependent on subsidies.

But “ordinary voters fed up”? They had the opportunity to get rid of the worst and most Marxist government we have ever known - and they didn’t do it.

Sure, the Coalition wasn’t much; but Hell’s Bells, anything would have been better than the Labor/Teal/Green conglomerate now more insane than it was after the first win.

Ley is a dud. She has been in parliament for 25 years, and is hardly known. She can fly a light aeroplane, and that’s it. The Liberals’ mania for women “leaders” is stupid. The only woman achieving anything in this country is Pauline Hanson.

Michael de Percy sums up Australia's predicament well:

“Australia is going down the gurgler fast. Our economy is buggered, Woke stupidity has ruined our democratic institutions, and our political class wants us to be subjects of a United Nations now influenced by third-world countries, the majority of which are dictatorships. We allow too many people to enter our country and share in her bounty without adding anything. Too many are bringing their medieval hatreds to our shores. Even our national security head honcho is getting worried”.

Hi, TTBN. What I meant was, Australians are fed up with mass migration, in MANY opinion polls. It seems to me, Dutton's espousing of (somewhat) lower migration was not what lost him the election so badly, it was other policy choices, plus the phoney Trump smear.

But yeh, we're never going to get effective "opposition" from Airwoman Ley, just a placeholder. I like your Michael de Percy quote. Until recently, he was at Uni of Canberra, it goes without saying, his sensible views were anathema out at their Belconnen campus led by Bill Shorten.

I wasn't aware that Steve S was your alter ego. I always like your contributions, and there is no doubt that Australians are fed up with mass immigration. My point is, they don't vote accordingly.

That they rewarded the worst, most destructive government ever with a second term amazes me.

While I respect my fellow Australians as people, I think that they are rubbish at politics.

According to a Roy Morgan poll, immigration was number 10 out of the 10 in the top concerns of Australians prior to this year’s election. 14%.

Cost of living at 57% was concern number one. The effects of mass immigration on living costs are apparently unknown or ignored.

Health services came second at 31%; thereafter:

. Crime 23%
. Climate 23%
. Economy 22%
. Interest rates 19%
. Honest government 19%
. Taxation 15%
. Education 14%
. Immigration & Population 14%

As an aside, but still on the unfathomableness of Australian voters, while they claim that their main concern is cost of living, Australians are predicted to spend an extra $6.8 billion at the Black Friday sales this year, once again suggesting that the cost of living “crisis” is a media invention.

A goodly part of the money will go to online scammers, who will also be grabbing the big spenders’ financial ID information.

The average Aussie, I’m afraid, is a bit too easy to manipulate - not just by politicians.