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The Forum > Article Comments > Did the events at Pinjarra WA in 1834 merit yet another official apology to Aboriginal people? > Comments

Did the events at Pinjarra WA in 1834 merit yet another official apology to Aboriginal people? : Comments

By Brendan O'Reilly, published 7/11/2025

A modern Governor says sorry for an 1834 conflict under British administration. Is that accountability - or branding?

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When I was a young man I made a comment to someone that Australia was in a downward spiral.
He responded by saying he thought our system was not so bad: that it had much to commend it.
It has taken me a longish time to see that that young man was right.
I can now see sense in what he was saying.
I hope you too will come to see far more good than bad in our political system.
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Monday, 10 November 2025 4:12:11 AM
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Ipso Fatso,
There's absolutely no doubt in my mind & I have personal experience that there are aspects in this society that are exemplary & if you focus on these your outlook can only be positive.
Where the difficulties arise are in the fact that all is not that good & focussing on that offers a vastly different outlook.
It really depends on where one stands & the scene in view. If one stands here & the other stands there they each have a different view it's as simple sas that. Choosing what to look at is vastly different to seeing what's around.
My observations have made me from the conclusion that Australian society is relying unhealthily too much on opportunism & not sufficiently on effort. There are many who have it very good but of those for too many their benefits come due to the efforts of others rather than their own.
A lot of merit is not rewarded & for too many reward is not warranted. Although things are good generally, to ignore the threats building up will be to the detriment of most if present practises continue.
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 10 November 2025 7:19:29 AM
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Gee, how easily one can get off topic simply by answering an off-topic remark.
I think Australians have apologised & even way more compensated for past perceived & actual moral wrongs.
Australian indigenous society is not what it once was. Thanks to imported & distributed knowledge & DNA, Aboriginals & Islanders would & will not ever even try to regain their former style of existence even with all the huge masses of land returned to them.
The time for apologising has passed ! No Australian indigenous alive today is discriminated against. If there is could such discrimination please be evidenced ?
From my observations non-indigenous Australians are bending over backwards to help & the real stumbling blocks are the Albino macro fractional-indigenous activists who ruin every move regarding progress towards closing that imaginary "Gap".
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 10 November 2025 7:43:27 AM
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I commend your opinion.
It is definitely on the right track.
But I would caution you to be realistic.
We will never have a perfect system.
It is one which is contrived by imperfect humans.
But I think it is fit for purpose.
It just needs constant care, to make sure it doesn't falter too much.
And you are right.
It is totally wrong to continue this endless round of apology for long past events.
It is kept alive mostly by mischievous elements in the descendants of those involved in those events.
What we can do about it I am not sure.
Except make our logical opinion known, and hope it will spread.
If most come to think as we do, surely that must have some effect on official policy.
You see, I am still hopeful our democracy can win through.
The problem is that in a democracy, the majority opinion must become the universal opinion.
I must follow along with the majority, though I privately disagree.
But luckily, in this democracy, I can vent my alternative opinion.
Provided I do it in a demonstrably polite and peaceful way.
Without alternative opinions, there could never be change for the better.
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Monday, 10 November 2025 1:09:58 PM
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Without alternative opinions, there could never be change for the better.
Ipso fatso,
That's right however, when the opinions, alternative or otherwise, are causing friction then the only way to maintain order is to go by guidelines. Most disagreements evolve due to recalcitrant mentality opinion by those who actually benefit from workable agreeable guidelines without actually contributing anything of substance & value & even criticising the providers..
Responsibility must come before Right & entitlement which must be earned. You're correct in stating that there won't be a perfect system however, a degree of responsibility is preferable to just bleating entitlement. A National Service will provide the opportunity to bring about the mentality change needed.
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 10 November 2025 9:23:35 PM
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Today is Remembrance Day, remembering an event that took place 107 years ago, a long way from Australia, in a pathetic imperialist war in which million perished, including 60,000 Australians. They'll all dead now, as one bright spark has posted;

Most people would say, "Who gives a stuff"....not me.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 11 November 2025 4:18:07 AM
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