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Did the events at Pinjarra WA in 1834 merit yet another official apology to Aboriginal people? : Comments

By Brendan O'Reilly, published 7/11/2025

A modern Governor says sorry for an 1834 conflict under British administration. Is that accountability - or branding?

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Most Australians don't know anything about our history - particularly the Woke lot who like to hear such meaningless apologies on behalf of some unknown people 191 years ago.

It takes a real dill and super-dooper virtue signaller to pull stunt a like this. And, it does nothing for people struggling with life in 2025. Most people would say, "Who gives a stuff" - if they even heard or read the pointless twaddle.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 7 November 2025 7:50:39 AM
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This idiocy is on a par with nut-zero.

Very joyful to see, an Australian Leftist nut case, was deported from Israel on Wednesday; banned for ninety nine years. Some of the evidence against him were photos of him holding a placard praising Sinwar in 2024, at a rally in Melbourne.

The World is putting us on notice!
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 7 November 2025 8:07:25 AM
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It clearly shows that education does not make a person wise nor does it cure ideological short sightedness. The money wasted on "educating" hopeless idiots could do a thousand times more good helping the unfortunate.
Anyone who judges the past out of context of the prevailing era should not be allowed in any official position.
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 7 November 2025 9:17:23 AM
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I think it is clear the indigenous population was the aggressor.
I don't for one minute believe that the british arrived, and immediately set about slaughering the local peoples.
The british reacted only when they were attacked.
This happened because the locals thought the british were invaders.
They tried to defend their land.
Which is honorable.
However, their defence was so weak and ineffective. that they had no chance.
They lost whatever control they had over the land.
The brits were now the dominant force.
That means the locals could not pass their control on to subsequent generations.
They could only pass knowledge to their children.
So any of their modern descendants have no claim whatsoever to control, and hence 'ownership', of any land.
Claims of that nature are irrelevant and absurd.
The recent 'apology' appears also to be just as absurd.
However much we bemoan the use of force by past generations, we were not there.
We have no responsibility for the actions of those who lived at that time.
We simply cannot make any meaningful apology for any 'wicked acts' they committed.
To do so is totally meaningless, and we should know it.
History if full of conflict and aggression.
That appears to be the nature of man.
To apologise for it all would mean we are endlessly in a state of abject regret.
Which is in itself absurd.
We all start with a clean slate.
And we need to live wisely in the present, and not in the past.
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Friday, 7 November 2025 12:14:19 PM
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Small point but Pinjarra is south east of Perth. South west would put the locality in the Indian Ocean.
Posted by BernieMasters, Friday, 7 November 2025 12:32:08 PM
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Here's some background to the Battle of Pinjarra - an extract from the City of Mandurah's website. It refers to Thomas Peel who purchased a large area of land in the very earliest days of the Swan River Colony:

"The Aborigines were becoming more and more aggressive. They stole stock, set fires, and harassed people. Peel had very little sympathy for the Aboriginal people, and it was apparent they did not care for him. On 15th July, Messrs. Barron & Nesbit accompanied several Aboriginal men to find a horse belonging to Peel. The idea behind this trip seemed to be the killing of Peel, who did not go with the two men. More aboriginal men appeared, surrounding the two men. Barron felt threatened and attempted to return to Mandurah. Nesbit was struck with three spears and fell from his horse. Barron fled with spears in his back. Whilst Nesbit died from his injuries, Barron recovered. This was the trigger to the Battle of Pinjarra."
Posted by BernieMasters, Friday, 7 November 2025 12:33:56 PM
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Some more background to the Battle of Pinjarra:

H W Bunbury was stationed at the Swan River Colony just after the Battle of Pinjarra. He spent many months exploring the south west and was widely accepted as being a friend of Aboriginal people and worked with them on several of his expeditions. Here's what he wrote in one of his letters home in 1836, two years after the ‘massacre’:

“When he {Thomas Peel) settled at Mandurup, an officer & Detachment were sent for his protection, as the natives shewed themselves very hostile; they murdered not only several of his men but also several soldiers, & actually blockaded two or three of the latter who were left in the Barracks until a stronger Detachment was sent from Head Quarters to their relief. The natives speared Peels horses & cattle & and kept the settlement in constant dread & alarm until the Pinjarrup affair taught them our strength.”
Posted by BernieMasters, Friday, 7 November 2025 12:34:20 PM
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Blaming the White man is all the Aborigines have to cover their lack of progress due to not being as cohesive a society as most of the World's cultures were in that era of exploration.
If they had a real Welcome to Country none of the conflicts would have occurred in the first place. Aboriginal history has been made a huge lie by mostly white academics & now the indigenous have literally nothing believable so far as culture is concerned.
The Aboriginals have been isolated for too long & unfortunately that cost them dearly. However, to try to turn many wrongs into a realistic Right is failing everyone not just them.
I just hope that before long a true Aborigine will find a way to accept history & use the experience of the failures to bring about a better future & it can be done if the White & mixed race Academics can be prevented from further inventing Australian history !
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 7 November 2025 4:17:01 PM
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This is part of something I wrote many years ago.
I needed to 'trim' it to fit here.
It is not quite on topic, but still has relevance?
Back then I wrote:

We are all Australians.
We share the same land.
Collectively, we occupy, use, and defend that land.
Defence is not something which can be done by a few individuals.
It is something which can only be done by a (large) group.
Clearly, it is our group which protects and nurtures us.
So we have an innate responsibility to support our group?
For it is our group which provides us with our rights and privileges.
It gives us many benefits we would not otherwise have.
So it favours us to be a united people?

Forget the 'movement at the station' observed by Banjo.
Think about the 'force' produced by the 'many', when we are all going in the same direction.
Truthfully, there can only be one country.
There can only be one flag.
And only one parliamentary system.
There is only one official language we use to communicate.
I am writing with it now.
Our athletes must always represent Australia as a whole, not a separate group.
And whatever any individual might think, I cannot see Australia benefitting from a change to these things at any time soon.

Some of the descendants of those who lived here long long ago seem to have difficulty adjusting to the current culture.
They appear to have a different mind-set?
But adapt and accept they must.
Is someone telling them otherwise?
Is someone leading them away from the truth?
Telling them they are different, and must stay apart?
That their goal is not the common goal?
If so, that is a very irresponsible thing for someone to do.
Older, wiser heads amongst them need to counter that idea?
Those descendants don't live in some separate place.
They live right here amongst us.
And they must accept life as it is, and adapt to it, and adopt the culture as it is.
To do otherwise, is to live a life which is absurdly separate.
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Friday, 7 November 2025 6:19:10 PM
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Defence is not something which can be done by a few individuals.
Ipso fatso,
yes but losing the country can be done by just a handful of incompetent & traitorous bureaudroids ! (See present fed. Govt)
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 7 November 2025 9:23:09 PM
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To Mr 'Poster' and others.
Are all of our parliamentarians "incompetent & traitorous bureaudroids" I wonder?
I think not.
No government can be perfect, but overall I think that ours has positive governance.
We all of us are very fortunate that we live in a relatively peaceful country.
We are all well fed, and have lots of opportunities in life.
I am sure there are many on this world of ours who would willingly change places with us.
Do you want to leave and make way for one of those who would like to come here?
Could you find a friendly, progressive, and peaceful place overseas, which would welcome you?
If so, perhaps we could all move there?
On a side issue, I would better have said before that defence is best done by a large, COHESIVE, group.
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Friday, 7 November 2025 9:56:40 PM
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We all of us are very fortunate that we live in a relatively peaceful country.
Ipso fatso,
Yes, thanks to the efforts of previous generations of workers & fewer bureaudroids ! My only question is why change a good thing ? It makes no sense !
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 8 November 2025 6:59:08 AM
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When I was a young man I made a comment to someone that Australia was in a downward spiral.
He responded by saying he thought our system was not so bad: that it had much to commend it.
It has taken me a longish time to see that that young man was right.
I can now see sense in what he was saying.
I hope you too will come to see far more good than bad in our political system.
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Monday, 10 November 2025 4:12:11 AM
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Ipso Fatso,
There's absolutely no doubt in my mind & I have personal experience that there are aspects in this society that are exemplary & if you focus on these your outlook can only be positive.
Where the difficulties arise are in the fact that all is not that good & focussing on that offers a vastly different outlook.
It really depends on where one stands & the scene in view. If one stands here & the other stands there they each have a different view it's as simple sas that. Choosing what to look at is vastly different to seeing what's around.
My observations have made me from the conclusion that Australian society is relying unhealthily too much on opportunism & not sufficiently on effort. There are many who have it very good but of those for too many their benefits come due to the efforts of others rather than their own.
A lot of merit is not rewarded & for too many reward is not warranted. Although things are good generally, to ignore the threats building up will be to the detriment of most if present practises continue.
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 10 November 2025 7:19:29 AM
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Gee, how easily one can get off topic simply by answering an off-topic remark.
I think Australians have apologised & even way more compensated for past perceived & actual moral wrongs.
Australian indigenous society is not what it once was. Thanks to imported & distributed knowledge & DNA, Aboriginals & Islanders would & will not ever even try to regain their former style of existence even with all the huge masses of land returned to them.
The time for apologising has passed ! No Australian indigenous alive today is discriminated against. If there is could such discrimination please be evidenced ?
From my observations non-indigenous Australians are bending over backwards to help & the real stumbling blocks are the Albino macro fractional-indigenous activists who ruin every move regarding progress towards closing that imaginary "Gap".
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 10 November 2025 7:43:27 AM
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I commend your opinion.
It is definitely on the right track.
But I would caution you to be realistic.
We will never have a perfect system.
It is one which is contrived by imperfect humans.
But I think it is fit for purpose.
It just needs constant care, to make sure it doesn't falter too much.
And you are right.
It is totally wrong to continue this endless round of apology for long past events.
It is kept alive mostly by mischievous elements in the descendants of those involved in those events.
What we can do about it I am not sure.
Except make our logical opinion known, and hope it will spread.
If most come to think as we do, surely that must have some effect on official policy.
You see, I am still hopeful our democracy can win through.
The problem is that in a democracy, the majority opinion must become the universal opinion.
I must follow along with the majority, though I privately disagree.
But luckily, in this democracy, I can vent my alternative opinion.
Provided I do it in a demonstrably polite and peaceful way.
Without alternative opinions, there could never be change for the better.
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Monday, 10 November 2025 1:09:58 PM
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Without alternative opinions, there could never be change for the better.
Ipso fatso,
That's right however, when the opinions, alternative or otherwise, are causing friction then the only way to maintain order is to go by guidelines. Most disagreements evolve due to recalcitrant mentality opinion by those who actually benefit from workable agreeable guidelines without actually contributing anything of substance & value & even criticising the providers..
Responsibility must come before Right & entitlement which must be earned. You're correct in stating that there won't be a perfect system however, a degree of responsibility is preferable to just bleating entitlement. A National Service will provide the opportunity to bring about the mentality change needed.
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 10 November 2025 9:23:35 PM
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Today is Remembrance Day, remembering an event that took place 107 years ago, a long way from Australia, in a pathetic imperialist war in which million perished, including 60,000 Australians. They'll all dead now, as one bright spark has posted;

Most people would say, "Who gives a stuff"....not me.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 11 November 2025 4:18:07 AM
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It is imperative that new generations are reminded of the tragedy that is war & honour those who perished in wars.
I think the time is well overdue to also remind them what causes war & how easily they too can fall into the traps of being part of such causes.
I can forsee war in the not too distant future caused by DEI & entitlement mentality & indoctrinated racism.
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 12 November 2025 9:45:48 AM
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If anything, the Australian Indigenous have been over-apologised to ! Just add up the compensation packages over the years & work out what has been achieved with them !
Same goes for the many claims of non-indigenous also !
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 15 November 2025 4:25:36 PM
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"over-apologised". The uncomfortable truth doesn't sit well with some, they would rather forget the past, the genocide, the murders and the disposition of Aboriginal people, only by those who want to forget what their ancestors did. I'm all for a progressive future for Aboriginal people, just like the majority of Australians. But to forget the white barbarity of the past would be shameful.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 16 November 2025 6:27:37 AM
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