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Ukraine targets critical oil infrastructure, a severe blow to Russia’s military and economy : Comments

By Ronald Stein, published 1/10/2025

Ukrainian attacks on Russia’s oil refineries and pipelines are sending a strong message to America’s national security team.

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"Like the biblical story of Goliath vs. David, the underdog Ukraine is attempting to place a dagger into the heart of Russia'a military and economy, by attacking Russia's oil refineries and pipelines."
- The wars already lost, they're only increasing the overall cost to the Ukrainian people, and you Americans started it with NATO expansion and sponsoring coloured revolutions.
Europe is doing more harm to itself than it has to Russia.
China has said they won't allow Russia to lose, and if your start firing nuclear capable Tomahawk missiles, you are inviting a nuclear response, and Russia will just take out the Ukrainian government with Oreshniks.
You shouldn't push your luck with a conflict with Russia.
I'm sure they have nuclear subs just sitting off your coast.
You should worry more about your love of 6L gas guzzlers and the AI data centres drinking your state dry, and a government that it trying to overthrow Venezeula to steal their oil and how you are seen in the world.
The worlds getting fed up with you, that's why they are moving away from the dollar and soon your country won't be able to fund it's debt obligations.
We don't need your military protection.
You weapons are outdated, overpriced and useless.
And we're more likely to end up on the worse side of any war you drag us into.
Just like you did to the Ukrainians and are attempting to do with Taiwan, and conflicts you engineer all over the world.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 1:12:14 PM
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Hi AC,

You are an intelligent guy, yet you comment is pretty much verbatim Russian Federation or CCP propaganda. Ukraine is a democratic nation being subjected to an unprovoked invasion by an authoritarian regime. The invasion was to take a few weeks and is now into its fourth year with nearly a million Russian casualties and the loss of vast amounts of its military hardware. Without the assistance of China and other Bricks the invasion would have stalled long ago.

It is a war of technology as well as attrition. I am curious as to how close the Ukrainians are to commissioning copter killing jet drones, and the Tomahawks will come in handy. Apparently drones now cause 70% of casualties.
Posted by Fester, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 8:32:13 PM
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Hi Fester,
Ah so you believe the Western propaganda when it points the finger at the Russian propaganda.

"Ukraine is a democratic nation being subjected to an unprovoked invasion by an authoritarian regime."
- Just because they say 'unprovoked' doesn't make it true.

Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine
http://www.amazon.com.au/Provoked-Washington-Started-Catastrophe-Ukraine/dp/1733647376
690 pages, rated 4.9 stars out of 5 from 325 reviewers.
I have a physical copy of it somewhere, but I moved recently.

All they have to do is use charged words are repeat them again and again and eventually you all buy into it.

Victoria Nuland openly stated they spent 5 billion via USAID, and I have the video prior to the Maidan of Ukraine's deputy PM openly saying in Ukrainian parliament that U.S. was trying to start a coup to overthrow the country.

"The invasion was to take a few weeks..."
- The plan was to force Ukraine to the negotiating table after Putin wrote to NATO in December 2021 and was ignored, and they did force Ukraine to the negotiating table thru March and April 2022 but Boris Johnson showed up to put an end to any proposed peace and make Zelensky continue the war. and there wouldn't have been an invasion if the West had've honoured the Minsk agreements which the West agreed to in bad faith. Ukraine's territory would still be intact.

The claims of Russian dead arent true, another lie to make the average person think Russia is losing. Russia outnumbers the Ukrainians in artillery, drones, manpower, air support, troop training, troop rotations, and care for their own wounded on the battlefield.
Ukraine has over a million dead, Russia might have 300K dead and make it up to a million with wounded, maybe. If you think this is wrong, go look at the numbers for dead soldiers transferred.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 2 October 2025 1:31:31 AM
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Even CNN has the Russian numbers I recall about right, but they have the Ukrainian numbers way down, total lie.
(so now I'm questioning if the Russian numbers have been inflated too)
http://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/04/europe/russia-war-casualties-1-million-ukraine-intl

"Of the estimated 950,000 Russian casualties so far, as many as 250,000 are dead, according to the study. “No Soviet or Russian war since World War II has even come close to Ukraine in terms of fatality rate,” it said. Ukraine has sustained nearly 400,000 casualties, it added, with between 60,000 and 100,000 deaths."

Ukraine lost that many in their failed 2023 counter offensive alone and I think they also lost about that many in Kursk as well.
NYT even quoted about 70,000 Ukrainian KIA back in 2023.

"The Tomahawks will come in handy."
- Only if you want to test Russia with nuclear capable weapons fired into the motherland, or see them respond with Oreshniks.
They probably need U.S. systems and personnel to launch them and provide guidance for targeting, so they're playing with fire.
The West still wants to escalate, lets see where that goes, everything else was a fail.
Trump must be geting peeved off he might not get his Nobel.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 2 October 2025 1:51:01 AM
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