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The instinct to hurt those with whom one disagrees : Comments
By Robin Koerner, published 18/9/2025In other times and places, political assassinations have occurred as cultural anomalies, not obviously reflective of the zeitgeist or historical moment, and certainly not approved of by some significant minority of the population.
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Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 18 September 2025 8:59:56 AM
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I can sum it up in three words: Them and us.
I think it stems from a fundamental misconception of argument.There needs to be an understanding of argument's importance in the development and progression of civilisation. Them and us should be taught as something that should have been abandoned with tribalism. People should also be aware that them and us goes hand in hand with authoritarianism. Them and us is a red flag. Posted by Fester, Thursday, 18 September 2025 1:55:23 PM
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Speaking of "us and them" or "us versus them" this reference is very much about this phenomenon:
http://www.thenerdreich.com/unhumans-jd-vance-and-the-language-of-genocide The now very prominent politician featured in this reference has been using the same kind of language ever since, especially in his very now time response to the murder of Charlie Kirk. Such has also been the response of many right-wing opinionists including (and especially) Donald Trump and his-worse-than-horrible principal adviser Miller. Posted by Daffy Duck, Thursday, 18 September 2025 4:19:32 PM
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Charlie Kirk was murder victim number 61 in America on September 10th 2025. On the same day an unnamed Palestinian boy become the 12th murder victim in Gaza. The only difference is notoriety, Kirk, high profile, an "important" person, the boy, unknown and "unimportant". Both murders were reprehensibly disgusting, and should be equally condemned. Unfortunately the world suffers from a cycle of violence, be it perpetrated by an unapproved individual, as in the case of Kirk, or be an approved person through the method of state sanctioned murder as in the case of the boy in Gaza. Condemn all acts of senseless violence, don't be hypocritical and say; "Oh my God, Charlie has been murdered, how terrible!" whilst at the same time accepting the murder of millions of others as being necessary, even desirable.
Just like the women in the story, applauding the murder of a high profile figure, there are millions of individuals who applaud the murder of unknown victims of war everyday. Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 19 September 2025 4:07:08 AM
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Good link Daffy Duck. With "them and us" we all lose.
"On the same day an unnamed Palestinian boy become the 12th murder victim in Gaza." Paul, that poor kid should be made front and centre at some of the "Free Palestine" protests held daily in many locations around the nation, as I'm sure he will be. Do you you think that the boy was deliberately killed by Israelis because of what he believed, or was hes being used as a human shield by Hamas terrorists? Have you ever thought that there might have been gay Palestinians murdered by their own just because they were gay? Could you imagine that the murders aren't announced to the outside world by Palestinian authorities? Is there a difference if someone was killed because of what they believed rather than where they were? Posted by Fester, Friday, 19 September 2025 7:42:03 AM
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Hi Fester,
Unfortunately people like you are part of the problem, looking for excuses, deflections and justifications, wrong, wrong, wrong. Just as you justify the murder of one innocent child, with perverted thinking, you can just as easily justify the murder of 64,000 innocent people, or 6 million innocents from times past. Just as some lunatic murdered Kirk, other lunatics want to murder the murderer, what a vicious cycle! BTW I had not heard of this Charlie Kirk until someone murdered him. Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 19 September 2025 9:03:49 AM
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I mean, what sort of sick trash tells a total stranger that someone should be murdered? What sort of a narcissistic arsehole expects to be able to say such a thing and get away with it.
‘Matthew’ was a bit of a prick, too. He couldn't be trusted. He was the one who didn't like the offending sentence.
And, “this week a man (DID NOT) die: he was viciously MURDERED, by a sicko. Namby pamby language about death hides reality. People deliberately murdered being classified as ‘dying’. People killed by a drunk driver having 'their lives taken’, or ‘losing their lives’ when they were plain old killed by another person.
All this polite shite about vicious people doing vicious things is pathetic. No wonder some people make hideous comments when language is used to cover up reality.