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Electricity generated from wind and solar cannot replace fossil fuels! : Comments

By Ronald Stein and Yoshihiro Muronaka, published 30/7/2025

Eliminating fossil fuels without practical alternatives risks societal regression.

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There is nothing “noble” about wrecking the economy and increasing power prices as the Albanese/Bowen government is doing in Australia.

And, the non-Opposing Liberal Party would be little or no different; they started the Net Zero lurk.

It is too expensive now to manufacture anything in Australia, so we are looking at fewer jobs, and more taxing of people with the remaining jobs because of the energy fraud. It is not an “illusion”, it is downright fraud.

“Let's foster energy literacy at all levels of society …”.

No. Let’s get rid of the whole silly idea of unreliable energy, and the politicians who have brought it down upon us.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 9:54:09 AM
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Of unreliable and expensive wind and solar power that is still ruining Australia's economy, but which most other countries are now a wake up to, the comical little UN head, António Guterres, has said, “We are on the cusp of a new era. Fossil fuels are running out of road. The sun is rising on a clean energy age.”

He also made the obvious Bowen-like statement that sunshine is not subject to price hikes. No, but everything else to do with unreliable energy is. And he ignored the fact that sunlight is totally useless at night and when it's cloudy - unlike fossil fuels that he confidently spruiked were “running out of road”.

Apparently Australia pays around $70 million a year to be a member of the organisation that this idiot runs.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 9:57:55 AM
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This is the same tired script Ronald Stein has been running for years. Again:

- Intermittent doesn’t mean inadequate
- Plastics aren’t power
- Early fossil use doesn’t mean dependence
- EVs are already cleaner
- Developing nations are leapfrogging fossil fuels
- The European “energy crisis” claim is a myth

Wind and solar aren’t magic, but they’re already outcompeting coal and gas.

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Posted by John Daysh, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 11:57:45 AM
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Exactly what many previous commentators on this forum have said on numerous occasions..
Posted by ateday, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 12:18:30 PM
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In subscribing to Net Zero and Open Borders, Albanese Labor is openly batting for China and India, against Australia.

Net Zero is a formula for endless Chinese growth and Western de-industrialisation. While Garnaut and the Australian left swoon over the "electrification of everything", China is burning far more coal than Rest of World combined, and is the runaway world-leader for CO2 emissions.
Posted by Steve S, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 12:33:02 PM
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I think the claim that electricity cannot always be a substitute for fossil fuels is quite correct. But it needs proof, not mere assertion, and such proof must be convincing. Which is not easy -- proving a negative never is. Also, renewables supporters and advocates don't take kindly to criticism and they take some convincing. My guess is that in terms of public admissions of a change of mind the success rate so far is zero. But don't give up! It's important.
Posted by TomBie, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 6:19:36 PM
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