Dear Paul,

«Remember, not all torture inflicted on Jews in Auschwitz was at the hands of German Nazis»

How am I supposed to remember when I wasn't there?
Fortunately, none of us here was!

What I am saying is, if you were not actually there, then at least learn to copy correctly - the name of that infamous Israeli prison is Sde Teiman, not Sde Temain.

Hi Yuyutsu,

Remember history, the Jew collaborators who worked with the Nazi's were called Kapos by other Jews. That fact of history is not in dispute. The Jews were not the only ones to collaborate with the Nazi's, there were French collaborators and others as well. I dare say if the Nazi's were to rise again and take over Australia, they were find willing collaborators from on this forum, and from within some political parties.

Dear Paul,

I do remember my history lessons.
I cannot remember the actual facts you mentioned because I was not there.
I don't believe that you were there either:
All you know about Jews and others collaborating with Nazis, is what you heard from others long after the fact, and even they were likely not there.

BTW, how can you tell that someone is a Jew?
Is there really such a property which one either possesses or not (as the German Nazis used to believe and Jewish Rabbis still do)?

Hi Yuyutsu,

History, and the facts of history are not a matter of "being there". It would be like saying the Great Wall Of China does not exists, because I've not seen it, or Julius Cesar never existed because I never met him. I don't know when the Battle Of Hastings took place in 1066 as I cannot remember the actual facts mentioned because I was not there. Sounds like you are a history revisionist.

There are plenty of first hand accounts of the actions of the Kapos in Nazi concentration camps. That's history.

Jew, there are people who identify as being Jewish, just as there are people who identify as being Muslim, Christian, Australian, Aboriginal , Homosexual etc etc. I dare say there are some good folk as well who believe they are Aryan, they might be on this little forum.

Dear Paul,

Of course the Great Wall Of China exists, it is just that I cannot REMEMBER it, all I can remember is having learnt about it in school and then having seen some photographs of it online.

My original point was that when you do not remember things yourself, you should at least have the courtesy and respect to quote your sources correctly.

«Jew, there are people who identify as being Jewish»

Well Hitler did not agree with that assertion - he sent to Jewish Ghettos and concentration camps, presumably as "Jews", many people who never identified as Jews and in fact considered themselves good Christians. And yes, these people who did not identify as Jews got preference in being appointed Kapos, before being murdered as well. Aryan Jewish converts, on the other hand, who fully identified themselves as Jewish, were only sent to regular prisons and work-camps.

Jewish Rabbis also wouldn't agree with you. They consider anyone who is born of a maternal grandmother (or maternal maternal great-grandmother, etc.) a Jew even if they don't know it, and also consider others who observe the Jewish laws and pray the Jewish prayers 3 times daily as non-Jews because only their father may have been Jewish.