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Secrecy and virtue signalling: another view of Signalgate : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 4/4/2025

There has been a fascinating, near unanimous condemnation among the cognoscenti about the seemingly careless addition of Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic to the chat chain of Signal by US National Security Advisor Michael Waltz.

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Diver Dan

About to waste time here, but never mind, just for the record ...

The Democrats are not 'radical Leftists'. They're every bit the corrupt warmongers that the Republicans are. There's no Left party in the US, apart from the Greens, who are kept from ever gaining traction due to the electoral system favouring the major parties.

Your antisemitism reference is pretty much unintelligible, but the fact you raise it at all says more about you than it does me. Antisemitism is no more a problem than Islamophobia, Russophobia or Sinophobia. It's been deliberately elevated as an issue simply to shut down criticism of Israel's genocide in Gaza. It's not antisemitic to condemn the current Israel government and many millions around the world are doing so.

And why you'd raise the ABC, SBS or BBC as sources of influence for me simply demonstrates more of your ignorance about me and about fair and balanced media coverage. These media outlets are as guilty of peddling lies and misinformation about Russia, China and Israel as is commercial media ... a bit more restrained but guilty just the same.

And as for your last sentence, again, says far more about you than it does me. Which form of 'Democracy' are you referring to ... the 1950's nostalgic picket fence narrative of the likes of John Howard ... or the reality of current Western democracies ... where wealth disparity grows by the day, where their rampant and insatiable greed for resources is destroying the planet, where their military spending consumes ever bigger portions of their budgets and where they're increasingly introducing censorship and other autocratic measures.

And as for the 'poor simple minded' reference, how wrong could you be. Simpleton's absorb their nation's propaganda without question. Intelligent people don't. They source independent investigative journalism and engage in a complex and never-ending journey to find the truth.
Posted by Bronwyn, Saturday, 5 April 2025 2:01:28 PM
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AC

<< It's not easy getting to the truth in a world of lies. - Especially when everyone treats you like you're the enemy. >>

Very true!

Always nice to bump into a fellow-traveller though ... I doubt either of us will be deterred by the likes of DD from continuing to speak truth to power!
Posted by Bronwyn, Saturday, 5 April 2025 2:06:18 PM
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Mr and Mrs Simpleton:

You poor misguided pair of over opinionated hillbillies.

Here is my stand:

I think wholeheartedly, Netanyahu is doing a fabulous job of ridding the world of Muslims, particularly the Extremist type the Jihadi Palestinians.

If Australia could join his campaigns by simply copying his courageous stand against an enemy that is willing to die in the quest of eliminating every Jew, Christian, Hindu, ultimately advancing their cause, culminating in the annihilation of everybody not matching the description of an Islamist to the letter, by expelling all Muslims from our shores via concentration camps prior to exit, then I would stump up with a vote for that man.

It won’t be Donald Trump who has turned his coat around now he’s elected to the favoured spot of US King, and gone rogue against the Hawks, in a lookalike pose of Old Joe/ Obama, going soft in the head with Diplomacy. He’s already lost the war that matters; along with yourselves!
Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 5 April 2025 4:11:24 PM
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I told you a week or so back that all this is obviously above your pay grade.

US ‘plans to attack seven Muslim states’
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2003/9/22/us-plans-to-attack-seven-muslim-states

"A former commander of NATO’s forces in Europe, Clark claims he met a senior military officer in Washington in November 2001 who told him the Bush administration was planning to attack Iraq first before taking action against Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and Sudan."
http://youtu.be/x17KVOiiGfI

* Wolfowitz

Wolfowitz Doctrine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine

These are Netanyahu and America's wars, Zionist wars.
The Muslims are not the aggressors, the West is.
Do you even comprehend that?

A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm

Now tell me who caused the Muslim refugee crisis?
Who enraged them?

Who caused the mass rapes of Swedish girls by Muslim migrants?
Clueless PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

Who promoted a changes to immigration law?

Immigration and Nationality (Hart–Celler) Act of 1965
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965
"Prior to the Act, the U.S. was 85% White, with Black people (most of whom were descendants of slaves) making up 11%, while Latinos made up less than 4%"

Celler strongly supported help for Jewish refugees fleeing Europe during World War II.
Emanuel Celler was born on May 6, 1888, in Brooklyn, New York. His parents, Josephine (née Müller) and Henry H. Celler, were each the children of German immigrants. His paternal grandparents and maternal grandmother were Jewish.

Who promotes immigrants?
http://hias.org/
Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, is a Jewish American nonprofit organization that provides humanitarian aid and assistance to refugees.
Drawing on its Jewish values and history, HIAS stands for a world where refugees find welcome, safety, and opportunity. HIAS provides services and advocates for the rights of refugees and asylum seekers globally, helping them rebuild their lives,

HIAS, the world's oldest refugee protection organization, has a significant global influence, particularly in providing services to refugees and asylum seekers, advocating for their rights, and responding to displacement crises worldwide.

Who owns U.S. Congress? Israel lobby
Who sets US war agenda? Pro-Israel neoconservatives
Who caused Muslim immigrant crisis? Zionist wars
Who worked to change immigration laws? Jews
Who promotes refugess? Jews
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 5 April 2025 5:04:19 PM
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"I think wholeheartedly, Netanyahu is doing a fabulous job of ridding the world of Muslims, particularly the Extremist type the Jihadi Palestinians."
- Except when it's supporting them to overthrow Assad and a policy to put Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Al Nusra or Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, in power and behead Christians, or bomb Christians in Lebanon you misguided fool.

- But don't you worry, they're 'moderate Jihadis'

It's just a stepping stone for the next stage of the conflict.
Israel will have to fight a war 'in defense' of these radical Muslim Jihadi hordes and then we'll have 'Greater Israel'

The Hegelian Dialectic - Problem, reaction, solution
https://youtu.be/tE94KUYcglk
"The first step (thesis) is to create a problem. The second step (antithesis) is to generate opposition to the problem (fear, panic and hysteria). The third step (synthesis) is to offer the solution to the problem created by step one: A change which would have been impossible to impose upon the people without the proper psychological conditioning achieved in stages one and two."

Paul Warburg (The Father)
Paul Warburg was an advocate for a central bank in the United States and was chosen by President Woodrow Wilson to serve as one of the first members of the Federal Reserve Board.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Warburg
Warburg was born in Hamburg, Germany, to the Warburg family, a German Jewish banking dynasty with origins in Venice. Paul Moritz Warburg (August 10, 1868 – January 24, 1932) was a German-born American investment banker who served as the second vice chairman of the Federal Reserve from 1916 to 1918.

James Warburg (The Son)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Warburg
He gained some notice in a February 17, 1950, appearance before the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations in which he said,
"We shall have world government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest."

All Wars Are Bankers Wars
http://youtu.be/BrKf9nYeXT0
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 5 April 2025 5:32:35 PM
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Gawd what a carryon, it is obvious that either someone wanted Goldberg
on the net or someone did a typo with an email address or telephone
number or clicked on the wrong icon.

Done it all myself.
Posted by Bezza, Saturday, 5 April 2025 10:33:15 PM
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