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By Binoy Kampmark, published 4/4/2025There has been a fascinating, near unanimous condemnation among the cognoscenti about the seemingly careless addition of Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic to the chat chain of Signal by US National Security Advisor Michael Waltz.
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Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 4 April 2025 8:24:20 AM
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AC
You obviously feel very comfortable wrapped in you progressive Leftist rags around Binnoy, a fellow traveller. Modoweiss: this stuff is doing your head in mate. Posted by diver dan, Friday, 4 April 2025 9:41:25 AM
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Diver Dan
Aren't you interested in getting to the truth? Goldberg is a former IDF soldier. He's a hardline supporter of Israel. He's long been chummy with many in the US government. He was used by Dick Cheney to conjure up a non-existent link between al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein and help create support for the disastrous invasion of Iraq. The Houthis are targeting ships carrying weapons into Israel. They're doing so to help end the genocide in Gaza and are the only ones in the world to do so. And the US is bombing them for it. And instead of condemning the obscenity of the US killing 53 innocent Yemeni civilians, all our media can talk about is, shock horror, the government's planning discussions being insecurely leaked to a journalist. Nothing at all about the enormous atrocity of the act itself. These are all facts. And unlike your good self, AC is across them all. And no, it's not doing his head in. He's one of the most lucid and clear-headed contributors to this forum. And Binoy is another. Posted by Bronwyn, Saturday, 5 April 2025 12:11:29 AM
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Bronwyn
The Democrats are a spent force, never to return hopefully. As for the useful idiots that follow their radical Leftist agendas like yourself for good example, for them the brain washing is complete and irreversible. Sad! The hope is though, working on the overpowering emotion of Antisemitism in you may just, with luck, trigger enough awareness to recognise reality and truth behind the lies peddled through such media channels as ABC/SBS, BBC, poor simple minded AC’s latest contribution ( link above), Al Jazeera, and the slew of Qatar captured outlets, too numerous to mention. Good luck with your unwavering support from inside the enemy camp, for the Jihadist march against Democracy! Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 5 April 2025 11:27:27 AM
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Pathetic.
- The mentality that says if we can't argue the facts, then attack the person who said it. The reason it's pathetic, is because if Hitler was raised from the dead tomorrow and said 'the sky is blue', you'd attack him and say he's wrong, just because he was the one who said it, that's how ridiculous it is. But I can't exactly talk, because I've got this 'War on stupid'. If someone says something stupid, I'll tell them so, and if they argue the point, effectively 'doubling down on stupid' then I say they're stupid. But ultimately it really comes down to what Bronwyn said: "Aren't you interested in getting to the truth?" - And I already know the answer, no you're not. Not many people do, their heads are full of lies, mistruths and bias. I don't support the Wests sanctions and overthrows and endless wars. Said it a million times. You now and again speak against Islam right? Well who has been enraging them for the last 3 decades? And whose wars made those Islamic extremists inhabit our western societies? http://www.gov.il/en/pages/event-statements030425 Netanyahu: "I would say that our cooperation goes deeper than that because I believe we are fighting a similar battle for the future of our common civilization. Our Judeo-Christian civilization, Western civilization as we understand it, it's under assault right now from one powerful corner and that is radical Islam. Radical Islam in the Middle East is spearheaded by one country, and that is Iran." Netanyahu's full of it. What Judeo-Christian civilisation? It's all clever bs narrative to manipulate support for Israel, its past and future atrocities. Israel's a terrorist state with an 'end justifies the means attitude'. - Genocidal land theives really. His wars fostered Muslims to become enraged, dispersed them into all our countries, bringing upon the West inevitable total destruction, look at the UK. And the US and Israel have created more carnage on this planet than Iran ever could, I showed you the Clean Break policy paper and Wesley Clarks '7 wars in 5 years' statement. You must have cognitive dissonance. Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 5 April 2025 12:34:15 PM
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Hi Bronwyn,
It's not easy getting to the truth in a world of lies. - Especially when everyone treats you like you're the enemy. Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 5 April 2025 12:44:40 PM
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Diver Dan
About to waste time here, but never mind, just for the record ... The Democrats are not 'radical Leftists'. They're every bit the corrupt warmongers that the Republicans are. There's no Left party in the US, apart from the Greens, who are kept from ever gaining traction due to the electoral system favouring the major parties. Your antisemitism reference is pretty much unintelligible, but the fact you raise it at all says more about you than it does me. Antisemitism is no more a problem than Islamophobia, Russophobia or Sinophobia. It's been deliberately elevated as an issue simply to shut down criticism of Israel's genocide in Gaza. It's not antisemitic to condemn the current Israel government and many millions around the world are doing so. And why you'd raise the ABC, SBS or BBC as sources of influence for me simply demonstrates more of your ignorance about me and about fair and balanced media coverage. These media outlets are as guilty of peddling lies and misinformation about Russia, China and Israel as is commercial media ... a bit more restrained but guilty just the same. And as for your last sentence, again, says far more about you than it does me. Which form of 'Democracy' are you referring to ... the 1950's nostalgic picket fence narrative of the likes of John Howard ... or the reality of current Western democracies ... where wealth disparity grows by the day, where their rampant and insatiable greed for resources is destroying the planet, where their military spending consumes ever bigger portions of their budgets and where they're increasingly introducing censorship and other autocratic measures. And as for the 'poor simple minded' reference, how wrong could you be. Simpleton's absorb their nation's propaganda without question. Intelligent people don't. They source independent investigative journalism and engage in a complex and never-ending journey to find the truth. Posted by Bronwyn, Saturday, 5 April 2025 2:01:28 PM
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AC
<< It's not easy getting to the truth in a world of lies. - Especially when everyone treats you like you're the enemy. >> Very true! Always nice to bump into a fellow-traveller though ... I doubt either of us will be deterred by the likes of DD from continuing to speak truth to power! Posted by Bronwyn, Saturday, 5 April 2025 2:06:18 PM
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Mr and Mrs Simpleton:
You poor misguided pair of over opinionated hillbillies. Here is my stand: I think wholeheartedly, Netanyahu is doing a fabulous job of ridding the world of Muslims, particularly the Extremist type the Jihadi Palestinians. If Australia could join his campaigns by simply copying his courageous stand against an enemy that is willing to die in the quest of eliminating every Jew, Christian, Hindu, ultimately advancing their cause, culminating in the annihilation of everybody not matching the description of an Islamist to the letter, by expelling all Muslims from our shores via concentration camps prior to exit, then I would stump up with a vote for that man. It won’t be Donald Trump who has turned his coat around now he’s elected to the favoured spot of US King, and gone rogue against the Hawks, in a lookalike pose of Old Joe/ Obama, going soft in the head with Diplomacy. He’s already lost the war that matters; along with yourselves! Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 5 April 2025 4:11:24 PM
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I told you a week or so back that all this is obviously above your pay grade.
US ‘plans to attack seven Muslim states’ http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2003/9/22/us-plans-to-attack-seven-muslim-states "A former commander of NATO’s forces in Europe, Clark claims he met a senior military officer in Washington in November 2001 who told him the Bush administration was planning to attack Iraq first before taking action against Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and Sudan." http://youtu.be/x17KVOiiGfI * Wolfowitz Wolfowitz Doctrine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine These are Netanyahu and America's wars, Zionist wars. The Muslims are not the aggressors, the West is. Do you even comprehend that? A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm Now tell me who caused the Muslim refugee crisis? Who enraged them? Who caused the mass rapes of Swedish girls by Muslim migrants? Clueless PEOPLE LIKE YOU. Who promoted a changes to immigration law? Immigration and Nationality (Hart–Celler) Act of 1965 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965 "Prior to the Act, the U.S. was 85% White, with Black people (most of whom were descendants of slaves) making up 11%, while Latinos made up less than 4%" Celler strongly supported help for Jewish refugees fleeing Europe during World War II. Emanuel Celler was born on May 6, 1888, in Brooklyn, New York. His parents, Josephine (née Müller) and Henry H. Celler, were each the children of German immigrants. His paternal grandparents and maternal grandmother were Jewish. Who promotes immigrants? http://hias.org/ Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, is a Jewish American nonprofit organization that provides humanitarian aid and assistance to refugees. Drawing on its Jewish values and history, HIAS stands for a world where refugees find welcome, safety, and opportunity. HIAS provides services and advocates for the rights of refugees and asylum seekers globally, helping them rebuild their lives, HIAS, the world's oldest refugee protection organization, has a significant global influence, particularly in providing services to refugees and asylum seekers, advocating for their rights, and responding to displacement crises worldwide. Who owns U.S. Congress? Israel lobby Who sets US war agenda? Pro-Israel neoconservatives Who caused Muslim immigrant crisis? Zionist wars Who worked to change immigration laws? Jews Who promotes refugess? Jews Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 5 April 2025 5:04:19 PM
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"I think wholeheartedly, Netanyahu is doing a fabulous job of ridding the world of Muslims, particularly the Extremist type the Jihadi Palestinians."
- Except when it's supporting them to overthrow Assad and a policy to put Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Al Nusra or Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, in power and behead Christians, or bomb Christians in Lebanon you misguided fool. - But don't you worry, they're 'moderate Jihadis' It's just a stepping stone for the next stage of the conflict. Israel will have to fight a war 'in defense' of these radical Muslim Jihadi hordes and then we'll have 'Greater Israel' The Hegelian Dialectic - Problem, reaction, solution https://youtu.be/tE94KUYcglk "The first step (thesis) is to create a problem. The second step (antithesis) is to generate opposition to the problem (fear, panic and hysteria). The third step (synthesis) is to offer the solution to the problem created by step one: A change which would have been impossible to impose upon the people without the proper psychological conditioning achieved in stages one and two." Paul Warburg (The Father) Paul Warburg was an advocate for a central bank in the United States and was chosen by President Woodrow Wilson to serve as one of the first members of the Federal Reserve Board. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Warburg Warburg was born in Hamburg, Germany, to the Warburg family, a German Jewish banking dynasty with origins in Venice. Paul Moritz Warburg (August 10, 1868 – January 24, 1932) was a German-born American investment banker who served as the second vice chairman of the Federal Reserve from 1916 to 1918. James Warburg (The Son) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Warburg He gained some notice in a February 17, 1950, appearance before the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations in which he said, "We shall have world government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest." All Wars Are Bankers Wars http://youtu.be/BrKf9nYeXT0 Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 5 April 2025 5:32:35 PM
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Gawd what a carryon, it is obvious that either someone wanted Goldberg
on the net or someone did a typo with an email address or telephone number or clicked on the wrong icon. Done it all myself. Posted by Bezza, Saturday, 5 April 2025 10:33:15 PM
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The Acting Commander.
Your claimed superior knowledge falls apart with your references and links to them. You expose your hand as weak. Your judgements are flawed by not determining the difference between propaganda and simple news facts. News: These are the enemy! Israel is at war with the Palestinians in Gaza now, following an Hamas terrorists attack (inclusive of thousands of Palestinian citizens), who crossed their border in an unprovoked attack on 7/10/23, slaughtering innocent Israelis, and taking hostage 250 Israeli captives. The genocidal maniacs are Palestinians, not Israelis; genocide is their creed, your blind to this simple fact. You excuse them In your attempts to draw an equivalence, a fact from your own admission which simply shows to me, you’ve been brain washed by Hamas propaganda. Your actually the captured child In this theatre, but your not alone! Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 6 April 2025 7:03:22 AM
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"Your claimed superior knowledge falls apart with your references and links to them. You expose your hand as weak.
Your judgements are flawed by not determining the difference between propaganda and simple news facts." How so? I don't claim to have superior knowledge. Morso people like yourself live in a world of ignorance. "News: These are the enemy!" - No, they're Israels enemy and Israel's the invader and oppressor, they're spiders that Zionists unleashed on our countries consequntial to their wars, a result of our weak leadership, multiculturalism idealism, and the denial of the right of citizens to decide who we wish to share our country with. Here's another news story for you 'Nakba!' - Even our indigenous are still pissed off 200 years later and call us invaders. "Israel is at war with the Palestinians in Gaza now, following an Hamas terrorists attack (inclusive of thousands of Palestinian citizens)" Palestinians have every right to fight their oppressors under occupation, but that right doesn't extend to innocent civilians. If they took hostages, then it's no different than what Israel does taking thousands of Palestinians, holding them in indefinite detention without charge and raping and torturing them. Story that just came out about execution of Gazan medics proves Israelis are habitual liars, Mossad motto is 'By way of Deception'. If you go check the statastics, you'll find the number of Israeli's killed by Palestinians over decades is not that great, whereas on the other hand the amount of Palestinians killed by israeli's is horrendous. These the ACTUAL facts, not the contrived bs you regurgitate. "You excuse them in your attempts to draw an equivalence, a fact from your own admission which simply shows to me, you’ve been brain washed by Hamas propaganda. Your actually the captured child In this theatre, but your not alone!" I don't care for Islam, and I'd prefer we didn't have them in this country, but I don't remove myself from facts, and the 'Israel / Palestinian issue isn't a 'I hate Muslims so it's ok issue', it's a human rights / land theft one. Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 7 April 2025 8:57:26 AM
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People even try to deny Jews started Communism.
Zionism V's Bolshevism - A struggle for the soul of the Jewish People. 'By the Rt. Honorable Winston S. Churchill'. http://jewishcurrents.org/churchill-and-the-jews Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 7 April 2025 9:05:00 AM
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Your in free-fall off the Subjective cliff of madness mate: You need help.
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 7 April 2025 7:38:21 PM
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Maybe it's you that lives in a fantasyland diver dan.
After all, you thought I was Alan B and accused me of it for years. The poor blokes probably left the building now. Hidden History of Zionism - ROBERT SEPEHR http://youtu.be/W6BYRVOxc4Y 109 countries, 1030 times, over 2000 years. http://x.com/TheRISEofROD/status/1908676976392486923 Fail enough times and eventually you learn how NOT to fail. Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 7 April 2025 8:32:43 PM
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In One of the Gaza War's Most Horrifying Nights, the Israeli Army Killed Nearly 300 Women and Children
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-03-27/ty-article-magazine/.premium/in-one-of-the-gaza-wars-darkest-nights-the-idf-killed-nearly-300-women-and-children/00000195-d949-da7e-adb7-f9d9e5760000 'Israel Must Be Sanctioned': US Senate On Boil; Huge Clash Before Trump-Netanyahu Huddle http://www.youtube.com/live/3_N2dKn03xU Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 8 April 2025 7:59:51 AM
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Yep, old Alan B or Vociferous Al: I can’t be blamed for suspecting a nefarious plot, I’d caught him out on other occasions parading his wares under multiple nom de plumes; How can I stand accused?: I remain alert like the good Israelis!
Your problem is one of capture. The keen difference between your stand and mine is, I’m not an Anti-Semite, you are; thus my accusation of your infatuation with subjective information you obsessively present for evidence supporting your Anti-Semitic position, and likewise my persistence refuting your run-of-mill Anti-Semitic propaganda from the free flowing channels handed over to a leftist world order: Your hooked mate. You really need to change! Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 8 April 2025 9:02:13 AM
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Yemen is acting responsibly to stop genocide and the U.S. is bombing them for it
http://mondoweiss.net/2025/04/yemen-is-acting-responsibly-to-stop-genocide-and-the-u-s-is-bombing-them-for-it/
'Yemen's Red Sea blockade in defense of Palestinians is squarely supported by international law. But the country is being ruthlessly bombed by the U.S. to ensure Israeli impunity for its continued siege and genocide in Gaza.'
"The U.S. is bombing Yemen because Yemen is acting, as required by international law, to stop the genocide and unlawful siege in Palestine.
This is not an editorial opinion. It is a statement of both law and fact.
Neither of these facts has been featured in the reporting or commentary of Western media corporations, let alone in the statements of perpetrator governments like the U.S.
Because to perpetrate a genocide in plain sight requires the suppression of the truth and the obscuring of the law...