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Bogus myths created to promote renewables : Comments

By Ronald Stein, published 19/3/2025

All the parts and components of the net zero emissions fantasy from wind turbines and solar panels are 100% dependent on the oil derivatives manufactured from crude oil, the same oil that net zero enthusiasts want to rid the world of.

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I don't think "bogus myths" is the correct description. Many, perhaps even most, of the people seriously interested in eliminating use of fossil fuels are well aware of how essential they now are. The problem is that they also imagine that with ingenuity and persistence humans will find replacements. They will also roll off lists of e.g. the latest technology advances from academics etc. that are paving the way to eventual success in those endeavors. In a nutshell the problem is not one of ignorance or misguided motives. It's purely about optimism and its close cousin wishful thinking. And these are not such easy targets for the critics.
Posted by TomBie, Wednesday, 19 March 2025 8:18:04 AM
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What an absolute crock. It throws out a bunch of misleading claims, hoping readers won’t bother to fact-check. Let’s tear it apart.

First, the idea that wind and solar are useless because they’re “intermittent” is a lazy argument. No energy grid relies on a single source. That’s why we have battery storage, hydro, nuclear, and other backup systems. The whole point of a grid is to balance supply and demand. The claim that oil is the reason electricity exists is even dumber—electricity was around long before oil became a major energy source, and today, oil barely contributes to global power generation.

Mentioning that fossil fuels are used for manufacturing renewables is another desperate attempt to discredit them. Fossil fuels are used in production today, but that’s changing fast. Green steel, better recycling, and electrified industrial processes are already cutting down that reliance. Pretending that wind and solar can’t exist without oil is like saying cars will always need horseshoes because we used to rely on horses for transportation.

Then there’s the laughable attempt to make mining for renewables sound worse than oil drilling. Yes, lithium and cobalt mining have environmental impacts, but here’s the difference: once a wind turbine or solar panel is built, it lasts for decades. Meanwhile, fossil fuels require constant extraction, transport, and burning. How many oil spills, coal mine collapses, and pollution-related deaths do we need before people stop pretending fossil fuels are some kind of gold standard?

The claim that renewables are too expensive is also incorrect. Non-renewble energy sources get trillions in government subsidies, while solar and wind are now the cheapest forms of new energy in many places. Renewables are creating jobs and energy independence, while those clinging to fossil fuels are stuck with price fluctuations and political instability.

This article isn’t just misleading - it’s deliberate garbage. The transition to clean energy isn’t just possible - it’s happening. And the people railing against it aren’t doing so out of logic or concern for the environment - their motivations are purely ideological.
Posted by John Daysh, Wednesday, 19 March 2025 8:58:44 AM
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Renewables will indeed work BUT NEVER with 8 billion, and rapidly increasing, humans around, all of whom want better lifestyles and enough food to eat so as to be strong enough to keep breeding more and more humans........ad infinitum.
Posted by ateday, Wednesday, 19 March 2025 9:34:01 AM
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The only 2050 Zero target met will be zero space for disposing of "renewable Energy" infrastructure ! My guess is that the proponents for "renewables" will by then have made their Dollars & hide well away from these dumps overfilled with "renewables !
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 19 March 2025 7:24:39 PM
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ateday,
That too. What no-one seems to be able or willing to explain is, how much of this "renewable" energy equipment is actually renewable ? Yes, progress is one-going but why create so much of a very long-term problem for a tiny bit of short-term gain, mainly for investors only anyway ?
Will they dig up & "renew" all these buried components ? What many blinded renewable energy proponents refer to as "renewable" is in fact mere replacement so, a total misnomer !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 20 March 2025 8:00:42 AM
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transition to clean energy isn’t just possible - it’s happening.
John Days,
Isn't the whole idea of renewables to bring down pollution ? At this stage renewables are simply too polluting to manufacture. If you have any evidence of such renewables of actually being renewed rather than simply replacing the components that had to be buried could you please provide information ?
We'd all love to see clean energy being produced cleanly & disposed of cleanly but that isn't the case is it & not for a long time yet ! The pollution factor from manufacturing renewables remains stronger than burning fossil fuels !
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 22 March 2025 8:00:56 AM
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