Sour grapes.

It's always good to kill the people who start wars, rather than the poor buggers who have to fight them.

Hassan Nasrallah has been the leader of Hezbollah for 32 years. He is not the first of the scum to be knocked off; Israel has been working its way through them for some time. The turd has been responsible for the deaths of more Arabs than Israelis. He was responsible for the blowing up of 12 Arab kids while they played soccer.

Whatever aid is being given to the comedic dictator of Ukraine should be diverted to Israel so that more of the behind-the-scenes scum can be obliterated with minimal civilian losses.

Muhannad Alazzeh, former member of the Jordanian Senate, explains:

"...Hezbollah’s fealty to Khomeini is what pushed the party...to engage in civil wars in Syria, Iraq, and Yemen, and to intervene in the protests in Bahrain. These interventions by Hezbollah were not against Israel but against the Muslim citizens in those countries, most of whom were engaged in revolts against tyrannical dictatorial regimes, who built their power off the bodies of their opponents.

Hezbollah’s support for criminal and corrupt regimes in Yemen, Syria, Iraq, and Iran has had a much stronger impact on the Arab and Islamic masses than Hezbollah’s attacks on Israel, which is why the assassination of Hassan Nasrallah is not an event worth shedding tears for most of these masses.

Hezbollah’s involvement in repressive actions in neighboring countries elevated strongman leaders who oppressed their fellow Muslims, which angered enough people that Israel was able to recruit a large base for espionage missions, one which undoubtedly helped in carrying out successive assassinations of Hezbollah leaders, the last but not least of which was the assassination of Nasrallah.

Even at home in Lebanon, Hezbollah is accused by Lebanese citizens (with the exception of the Shiite community) of being an armed militia that undermines and weakens the Lebanese state. This accusation has turned out to be true over the past years; Hezbollah took up arms against Saad Hariri’s Future Movement in 2008 and occupied buildings and facilities in Beirut in a blatant show of force. The group was also accused of being involved in the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.

From the perspective of the overwhelming majority of Arab and Muslim peoples, Hezbollah is a destructive element that fuels sectarian conflicts and supports authoritarian regimes so long as these regimes share a common sectarian affiliation with Hezbollah and the Supreme Leader of Iran wishes to support them."






Now Israel must deal with Nasrallah’s successor, Hassan Khalil Yassin, ....

Oh wait. They just did. He was sent to his 72 virgins a few hours after Nasrallah. Allah's going to be doing some overtime in the virgin making business.

"Now Israel must deal with Nasrallah’s successor, Hassan Khalil Yassin"
- I think I heard he was also killed mere hours after Nasrallah.

Yes to all of that mhaze, I’m trusting your not suggesting the leftist fallacy and suicidal trap that all enemies of Hezbollah are our friendly cousins.

Just a reminder Islam is Islam; unless your one of that breed, you are still and always will be, the infidel to be exterminated.

Of course there was a protest in Melbourne over the weekend over the killed terrorist leader (never led from the front).

Photos of the thug were waved about, along with flags of terror organisations supposedly proscribed in Australia (gales of laughter).

Australia's terror apologists - the minority's ABC - described the piece of filth as a “long time militia leader”.

All these “peaceful” demonstrators could be easily identified. All were in breach of s80.2HA of the Commonwealth Criminal Code.

Number of arrests? None! You have to wave a Jewish flag, or just carry one, to be arrested In Australia.

The Attorney General admits that the protesters were in breach of Commonwealth Law.

What is the AG going to do about it? Nothing!

Police have confirmed that they saw Hezbollah flags. What did they do about it? Nothing!

Labor and the Liberals are responsible for bringing this trash into our country. Shame on them both.

Binoy may be right that lasting peace in the Middle East will be possible only when some of the underlying causes of the conflicts are addressed. But that does not mean, as this article implies, that its attacks on Hezbollah are pointless.

At the very least they will probably lead to a reduction in rocket attacks on Northern Israel.

There is also evidence that some Hezbollah supporters were motivated by deep affection and admiration for Nasrallah. Ideological movements may survive the loss of a leader. Personality cults may not.

Binoy’s analogy of treating symptoms, not the underlying disease, is perhaps more apt that he thinks. Many medical treatments quite rightly do exactly that, especially when the symptoms are serious and life-threatening. Severe COVID cases were intubated to help them keep breathing. Fever sufferers are encouraged to drink lots of fluids. Neither treatment addresses the root cause of the illness, but both are often in the interests of the patient.

And if a disease is incurable, the only thing you can do is treat the symptoms.

I hope the disease is curable. As the thoughtful article that mhaze quotes indicates, many people and countries in the Middle East are delighted that Hezbollah’s leadership and organisation have been severely weakened. If there is to be a lasting and sustainable peace, it will need the active support of parties willing to accept Israel’s right to exist, and to sideline Iran’s genocidal Islamofascist puppets such as Hamas and Hezbollah. Muhannad Alazzeh’s article sees Israel’s action as a possible step towards a genuine two-state solution. I hope so.

http://www.newsweek.com/why-arab-street-celebrating-israels-killing-hezbollah-chief-nasrallah-opinion-1960901

AC – maybe read mhaze’s last paragraph again.

Rhian: The nondescript from the school of mullet.

If you wish to sound educated, try swimming as a lone White Pointer!
Your chances of survival will be greater!

Quoting from a Newsweek article shows the absurdity of his/her/its argument for peace and lack of grip on the situation.

It’s too infuriatingly left lopsided to respond to it.

Keep up to date, your light years behind!:

Hi Rhian,
I'm not sure how I missed that last line in mhazes comment but I did.

http://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1840494058717733151
LIES AND NAIVITY GOT NASRALLAH!

-> That’s how Israel killed Nasrallah and other high lever personnel:

1) Netanyahu promised a ceasefire deal with Lebanon if Iran does not attack Israel
2) The west negotiated with Iran not to retaliate against Israel, else there’s no ceasefire
3) Iran told Nasrallah that a ceasefire is coming and that he is safe
4) Nasrallah went to a big meeting with commanders, including Iranians thinking he is safe, likely even discussing the ceasefire deal
5) Israel strikes the meeting with 80 bunker buster bombs, killing them all

-> The new Iranian president is naive and believes the promised of the west and ultimately the promises of Netanyahu.

Dear Critic,

Yes, Nasrallah got a taste of how Netanyahu tricks the Israelis all the time.

To be fair, Netanyahu announced in advance, only days before, that he will use trickery in this war and that he has some further tricks under his sleeve.

«The new Iranian president is naive and believes the promised of the west and ultimately the promises of Netanyahu.»

He is not naive - he is a moderate, recently elected as the most moderate/liberal president-candidate the Ayatollah would allow. He knows that he must walk a tight rope, not to upset Khamenei and be sacked. Looking naive ("oops sorry, I didn't think of that") is for him a great tactic to achieve his goals (such as getting closer to the West and allowing Iranian women to go without a hijab) without attracting Khamenei's ire.

Hi Yuyutsu,
I heard something about he went on TV and publicly apologised (to Hebollah) for being naive and that he missed the opportunity to avenge Ismail Haniyeh. Iran seems to be put under some pressure to act right now I'm not sure how far they're willing to go. Looks like Netanyahu might not be going anywhere in a hurry.

Looks like the IDF have one into Southern Lebanon.

AC,

You surely can't be that naive or ignorant in your timeline to the Nasrallah removal. In between your claimed points of 3 and 4 the following happened:

* Israel exploded about 1500 pagers blowing the various body parts off a huge number of Hezbollah commanders and soldiers.

* The next day Israel exploded a huger number of radios taking out an even greater number of terrorists

* Then Israel started using the intel these pagers and radios had provided to start taking out Hezbollah 'safe' sites, munitions depots and rocket launchers as well as targeting their tunnels.

Yet, according to you, Nasrallah remained oblivious to his impending doom and blithely went along to a meeting safe in the knowledge that a ceasefire was imminent.

Actually what happened was that, since they could no longer use electronic communications (see pagers above) they needed to have a meeting of what top brass remained and they thought it was safe to do it in some unknown location. Except its now clear that Israel knows pretty much everything there is to know

I get that you always need to realign facts to fit your fantasies but this timeline is unhinged.
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Yep the IDF have now crossed the border and will enforce UN resolution 1701 themselves after the Lebanese army and the utterly duplicitous UN failed to even try to do so. Hezbollah might survive in some fashion after all this but they will be massively diminished.

There are reports of celebrations in Syria at the taking down of Nasrallah and Hezbollah.

Likewise there are reports that the Lebanese army has withdrawn from the border to allow the IDF to do what it needs to do to the terrorists. The Lebanese may yet recover their nation and for that they are also, it is said, celebrating and urging on the IDF.

Oh, and the Houthis.

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After the Hamas atrocities, Netanyahu said that the Israeli retaliation would be comprehensive and that at the end of it, the Middle East would look very different.

The Iranian proxy empire is being dismantled piece by piece.

More from the Israel-knows-all file.

A while back the Iranians set up a new unit to specifically combat Mossad and Israel infiltration of Iran's military and nuclear programmes.

It is now revealed that the head of that new agency as well as 20 or so of their agents actually worked for Mossad. Gigantic amounts of information about the Iranian nuclear programme are now in the hands of the Israelis.

And we can safely assume that the bombing death of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh was controlled by these Mossad double-agents.

If the writers of the James Bond franchise came along with a story that involved a 3 year long operation to put booby-trapped pagers and radios in the hands of Smersh and then place a double-agent at the head of their counter-intelligence unit, it would be rejected as too far-fetched and unbelievable.

Indeed, what the Israelis have managed to achieve is unbelievable and the world is better for it.

Diver Dan

The article by Muhannad Alazzeh which mhaze quotes, on which you commented “Yes to all of that” is the same one I linked to, on which you commented “Quoting from a Newsweek article shows the absurdity of his/her/its argument for peace and lack of grip on the situation."

"You surely can't be that naive or ignorant in your timeline to the Nasrallah removal. In between your claimed points of 3 and 4 the following happened"

You surely can't be that naive to think that when I post the contents of someone else's tweet, that the info comes from me first hand?

I got the info first last night from Alastair Crooke, former 30yr veteran of MI6.
He was the former EU special envoy to the Middle East and worked out of the British Embassy in Tel Aviv.
Watch it yourself, knock yourself out.
I saw the tweet in my X feed earlier this morning.

Alastair Crooke : Netanyahu Gambles on Slaughter
http://www.youtube.com/live/rCS97AOI2X0?t=1049

Alastair Crooke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alastair_Crooke

AC,

Oh so you post stuff that even don't think is true. OK, got it. I'll have to bear that mind.

Or do you just reserve the right to pretend to not believe it once its shown to be rubbish?

http://x.com/PressTV/status/1841162562236285181
Footage shows a barrage of Iranian missiles hitting occupied Israeli territories

Iranian media: Iran's hypersonic missiles destroyed Israeli missile defense systems Arrow-2 and Arrow-3 for the first time
http://en.topwar.ru/251183-iranskie-media-giperzvukovye-rakety-irana-vpervye-unichtozhili-izrailskie-sistemy-pro-arrow-2-i-arrow-3.html

"Iranian TV channels report that hypersonic missiles that reached Israel in a matter of minutes knocked out several IDF missile defense systems at once. It is claimed that Iranian "hypersonic" destroyed the Arrow-2 and Arrow-3 systems."

"Oh so you post stuff that even don't think is true. OK, got it. I'll have to bear that mind."
- So did you get over yourself yet mhaze?
Did you have a poke around and find out what I was saying was true, no?

Maybe you should stop watching whatever you watch and start watching what I watch?
Some more info from last night supporting what was already stated, but I didn't watch this video until today.

Pepe Escobar : The Resistance Rages
http://www.youtube.com/live/2hSooBsGzKc

Apparently when Khomeine found out that Pezeshkian had trusted the Americans he was livid and ordered the retaliatory strikes immediately.

Massive Iranian Missile Strike ‘Completely Destroys’ Israeli F-35 Base Nevatim: Stealth Fighters Destroyed - Reports
http://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/strike-completely-destroys-f35-base

Did Iran Just End Israel’s Invasion of Lebanon? One Missile Barrage May Be All It Takes
http://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/iran-end-israel-invasion-lebanon

Good to see that one country can smack another one in the mouth without having to resort to killing 1000 innocent women and kids.
- I'm not holding my breath but I really hope it doesn't escalate further, there's been enough loss of life already.

"Maybe you should stop watching whatever you watch and start watching what I watch?"

But then we'd both be wrong!

Still pushing the F15 destroyed story I see. Now your source (although 'source' is giving it way to much credit) is the Russian mouth-piece "Military Watch". Struth it just gets worse.

BTW, I was reading today about some Iranian cleric who asserted (AC knows all about un-researched assertions) that Israel was able to kill Nezrallah because they have access to a bunch of jinns (what we'd call genies)!! I suspect its just a matter of time before AC tells us its an established fact.

Its both funny and sad how you avoid admitting you're wrong and double down on stupid acting like an insolent child, but that's your way.

"Yet, according to you, Nasrallah remained oblivious to his impending doom and blithely went along to a meeting safe in the knowledge that a ceasefire was imminent."

- Did you forget what you said?
The mhaze we know likes to regularly remind people of what they've said, usually for 12 - 18 months minimum.

Well, I'm reminding you where your tantrum started.
And I can't confirm what planes were hit, if any.
Certainly plenty of missiles hit Israel and were aimed at its airfields, thet's undeniable.
Israel is not going to admit it if true, because doing so would confirm the accuracy of Irans weapons.
Iran doesn't have satellite capability to look down and do a battle damage assessment.

You talk all this bs about Israel remaking the M/E.
Russia China and Iran all have strategic partnerships with each other, and China (the people who make all our stuff) get most of their oil from Iran.

So if your hoping that Israel targets Iranian oilfields and then Iran shuts down the straight of Hormuz, they your actually supporting harm to our own country, and asking for all of Uncle Sams M/E military bases to be razed, you Israel-first moron.

Not to mention that all this stuff, causes harm to our relationship with China, its the reason why they're moving away from doing business with unfriendly countries and the reason why Albo sent a delegation to China on bended-knee, because they're moving away from sourcing their stuff from here, in anticipation of conflict.

Charmers was already talking a projected 9bln hole in our budget.

Isn't it ironic?
BRICS and the Global south are destroying western hegemony with dedollarisation.
And all you Pro-US Pro-Israel crowd are helping them destroy us by stubbornly determined to make conflict with our largest trading partner in order to side with the losers, and get us all killed.
By the time a war actually comes we'll be a third world nation anyway.

Sorry AC but your post makes zero sense....

" Did you forget what you said?"

No. Why would I? What I said was perfectly correct.

"And I can't confirm what planes were hit, if any."

And that's what I originally pointed out. The claims that you fell for were unconfirmed propaganda from the mullahs. But its now confirmed that no planes were hit. So what was unconfirmed is now confirmed in ways that make you look pretty silly.

"So if your hoping that Israel targets Iranian oilfields..."

Well I've never said anything of the sort but you then carry on as though I have and proceed to tell me how silly I am to want something that I never said I wanted. Deranged? Somewhat!

I'm pretty sure the main reason Israel hasn't yet kicked the mullahs for their aggression is that taking out the Iranian export facilities would upset the Chinese economy and Harris's re-election prospects. So they'll all be talking about what is and isn't an acceptable kicking for Tehran and how to respond while giving Iran some face-saving way of backing down.

I wouldn't be surprised if they leave Iran untouched and just hit their proxies. eg "Hassan Nasrallah's son-in-law, Hassan Jafar Qassir, may have been killed in airstrikes in the Mezzeh neighborhood in Damascus on Wednesday, according to early reports published by Sky News Arabic."

It will be wiser for Israel not to attack Iran at this stage,
but leave them in a long suspense and constant worry, just as they previously done to Israel which produced more damage than the missiles themselves they eventually rained.

But then, Netanyahu does not care about the well-being of Israel, only about keeping the war going indefinitely to escape elections, then jail.

"No. Why would I? What I said was perfectly correct."
- No it was totally incorrect, don't try to weasel out of it.

What I said was correct and you challenged it, and it wasn't about the planes.
You even repeated the false claim AGAIN in your last comment.

"Yet, according to you, Nasrallah remained oblivious to his impending doom and blithely went along to a meeting safe in the knowledge that a ceasefire was imminent."
- Even the Lebanese Foreign Minister says a ceasefire had been agreed.
I'm tired of you challenging everyone else and carrying on about it for months but when you mess up and say something stupid, you act like you're immune from the same rules you hold for others.
- And basically that's because you're a weasel.

"And that's what I originally pointed out. The claims that you fell for were unconfirmed propaganda from the mullahs."
Don't play it down like a weasel.
Israel copped the biggest smack in the mouth it's had in decades, their most important airfield got peppered and Iran didn't hit them in the daytime where the damage would be exposed and there would be greater casualties.
Even the ex-head of Mossad said Irans capabilities were greater than expected, that's an admission of the smack in the mouth.

"It will be wiser for Israel not to attack Iran at this stage,
but leave them in a long suspense and constant worry, just as they previously done to Israel which produced more damage than the missiles themselves they eventually rained."

- Agreed, but Israel is an extension of the US empire and it must remind everyone it carries the biggest stick.

"But then, Netanyahu does not care about the well-being of Israel, only about keeping the war going indefinitely to escape elections, then jail."
- The problem Netanyahu faces is that he hasn't achieved any of his war aims.

Hamas isn't defeated, the hostages are not returned and he hasn't been able to return the people to their Northern communities.
He may have gotten his pound of flesh from Hezbollah but he's not out of the woods just yet.

I just want to see an end to the unnecessary killing of civilians.
Israel would be smart to quit while its ahead.

While the Israelis wwere bragging 'There were no casualties'
- That was largely Irans choosing, but I note that on the exact same night Israel killed another 50 people in a strike in Khan Yunis.

Part of me would be quietly happy to see more fire rain down on Israelis heads, (because I'm not sure their attitude will change unless they accept there will be a price to pay and they have something to lose)
- But I truly don't want any further escalation, it's not helping anyone or anything except Bibi himself.

Oh Yuyutsu, I forgot.
Apparently that rocket that fell and landed on that unlucky Palestinian in the West Bank, was one of the handful the Jordanians shot down.

It was an empty street and that poor sod was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I'm calling it unlucky and tragic, because I'm not going to normalise any of this.

AC

" No it was totally incorrect, don't try to weasel out of it."

Well that is self-evidently absurd but if you explain why you think I was "totally incorrect" then I'll explain what you misunderstood.

But that's not AC's way, is it. Instead he makes these obscure assertions and thinks they carry weight.

"Israel would be smart to quit while its ahead."

At the very least, Israel will seek to unilaterally enforce the UN resolution 1701. The anti-Israel cheer-squad ignore this one. They demand that Israel accept and abide by all sorts of UN resolutions, but when Hezbollah, with the quiet nodding agreement of the UN, ignores a vital resolution, they rapidly avert their gaze.

Resolution 1701 required the region south of the Litani River to be demilitarised and administered by a combine UN and Lebanese force. It was the main carrot offered to Israel to stop the 2006 war.

Hezbollah ignored it and the UN allowed it to do so, while demanding that Israel live by it. Thus there are (or were) enormous Iranian armaments and tunnels just across the Israeli northern border. These were used to force Israel to move 70000 of its people living in those northern regions to seek safety elsewhere. (I recall AC gloating over that).

Israel will clear out the region south of the Litani River. Hezbollah, already effectively beheaded, will find itself massively reduced. Hopefully the Lebanese army will then reclaim the country for its peace wanting people.

Then Israel will quit.

"These were used to force Israel to move 70000 of its people living in those northern regions to seek safety elsewhere. (I recall AC gloating over that)."

OMG you people are seriously deranged.

'70,000 people had to move!!'
'Don't you bloody understand AC you anti-semitic piece of crap!!"

45,000 people had to die.
And who knows how many more had to go through who knows freaking what.
- I've seen what some of that 'freaking what' is btw and it ain't pretty.
That's the official number, but there's probably at least another 20,000 dead kids under the rubble, and then some.
A lancet study 3mths back said 186k, could realistically be more now, if you add on disease and malnutrition, side effects of deliberate starvation you know.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/8/gaza-toll-could-exceed-186000-lancet-study-says

As for the Israeli sending ground forces into Lebanon, I hear things aren't going well, hate to tell you, but take note I tried to tell you this BEFORE they went in and that it was a bad idea.

I'm hearing the words 'Israelis' and 'slaughtered'.

Anyway, none of this is my fight.

Dear Critic,

«While the Israelis wwere bragging 'There were no casualties'
- That was largely Irans choosing,...»

A piece of rocket fell on a room full of gas canisters supplying four apartments, just one meter away.
Fortunately it did not explode.
Had the canisters exploded, the whole street would have been flattened causing many casualties which even the bomb shelters could not save.

http://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/hyoko2orr

Was that Iran's deliberate and accurate targeting or was it God's finger, so to speak, which saved all these people?

He says I was "totally incorrect" .
I ask him to explain how.
Response.... crickets.
Typical of AC.

'Don't you bloody understand AC you anti-semitic piece of crap!!"

I think its disgraceful that anyone would say this about AC.
Oh wait... no one did say it. He made it up.
Typical.

"I'm hearing the words 'Israelis' and 'slaughtered'."
You hear lots of things that turn out to be rubbish.

Israeli soldiers will die in this operation. An absolute certainty. But Israel knows its necessary to protect its right to exist and rights of the Israelis to live in relative safety from the mullahs baying hordes.

And the only way to do that is to remove the baying hordes. Its all but done it in Gaza. They will do it in Lebanon. And if the Houthis don't take the hint and pull back in a hurry, they'll get the same treatment.

When you said this, you were wrong.

"Yet, according to you, Nasrallah remained oblivious to his impending doom and blithely went along to a meeting safe in the knowledge that a ceasefire was imminent."

Nasrallah DID remain oblivious to his impending doom and blithely went along to a meeting on the basis THAT A CEASEFIRE HAD ALREADY BEEN AGREED UPON.

http://youtu.be/vu1_q1vlUXU

I also heard that Netanyahu tried calling Putin a few days back and apparently Putin wouldn't take his call and Netanyahu was livid.
http://x.com/SprinterFamily/status/1841261623366795692
http://x.com/stairwayto3dom/status/1840854998978060685
Not sure if this was in regards to Putin rushing to the Kremlin at midnight for a meeting with the security council a few days back after Israel supposedly attacked a Russian base, Hmeimim or Tartus, I don't have all the details.
http://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/04/world/middleeast/israel-strikes-russian-airbase-syria.html
On top of this, Russia has advised the 1.5 million Russians in Israel to leave, I'm not sure what that says other than 'an attack may be imminent'.
Russia Tells Its Citizens to Leave Israel Now As Tensions Rise
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-tells-its-citizens-leave-israel-now-tensions-rise-1963933
Not only that Russia and Iran will soon sign an agreement, that will more or less put Russia, China and Iran in a 3 way alliance, similar to North Korea.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/putin-agrees-to-sign-russia-iran-strategic-partnership-agreement/

Who did all this?
America constantly meddling in other nations internal affairs.

Russia set to remove Taliban from terrorist list, says Putin’s envoy
http://www.politico.eu/article/russia-remove-taliban-terrorist-list-vladimir-putin-envoy-zamir-kamulov/
>>Putin’s has described the Taliban as “a trusted ally.”<<

"When you said this, you were wrong."

Hang on. Didn't you try to weasel out of this by saying it was someone else's opinion that you were merely reporting? Now your claiming it as your opinion which I originally said and that somehow makes me wrong!! Struth.

Nazrallah might have been oblivious to the fact that he was a marked man but I'd doubt it. Either way, that is merely your opinion not an established fact. This childish penchant of yours of thinking that your unresearched opinion is the same as fact is just bonkers and so very AC.

You won't admit you're wrong because you're a weasel, and that's what weasels do.

OK, I get it. I'm wrong because you say I'm wrong and that proves I'm wrong... no evidence or logic required.