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Cutting greenhouse gas emissions must cost more than 'business as usual' : Comments

By Geoff Carmody, published 19/9/2024

Get real. All human life and its 'business as usual' produces greenhouse gas emissions. Always has.

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Nothing will change until voters decide to change it.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 19 September 2024 7:54:36 AM
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After the solar & wind installations are complete it will then be
time to go back and start replacing them as it will be twenty years
since the start time.
The replacement costs MUST be added onto the power bills.
However, if nuclear has started being installed then S&W could be
removed in stages as nuclear comes on line.
That should make the true greenies happy.

Re nuclear, what fools the government are, they are demanding to know
from Dutton how much they will cost !
Fancy expecting someone to put a figure on it BEFORE going to tender !
It is unbelievable how stupid Labour is !
Even a small business man would know better.
Posted by Bezz, Thursday, 19 September 2024 8:16:45 AM
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Albanese’s regime is riddled with left-wing dogma: climate change is "real, and massive state intervention in generating electricity and control of the citizenry to stem innocent CO2 - 97% of which is naturally formed - can ‘solve’ the problem.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 19 September 2024 9:00:15 AM
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Renewables do lower costs, with many regions seeing power prices drop due to wind and solar.

Fossil fuels have received subsidies for decades, so it’s hypocritical to argue that renewables needing subsidies means they’re unviable. They simply level the playing field.

Renewable energy is getting cheaper all the time thanks to technological advancements. Acting like the costs stay fixed is dishonest.

Blaming California’s high energy prices on renewables ignores the many other factors at play.

Failing to transition to renewables will lead to much greater costs, like natural disasters and the economic costs of being out of step with the global energy mark. These far outweighing short-term expenses.

The environmental damage caused by fossil fuels isn't included in their costings.

Accusing renewable advocates of dishonesty without addressing their points is just a lazy deflection, not a valid argument.

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Posted by John Daysh, Thursday, 19 September 2024 9:00:40 AM
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The thing about burning carbon is that one day we may not have the option. Oil and gas may become unaffordable yet they help produce every mouthful of food. If alien lifeforms in other galaxies took the carbon route it could explain why they've never visited.. they ran out of energy.

It's not that the warning signs are missing. We could get more gas by drilling, importing or reducing exports. What happens when each of those options is exhausted. I reckon this will become clear by 2030.
Posted by Taswegian, Thursday, 19 September 2024 9:51:16 AM
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Stick to the approved narrative, Geoff.

Albo Ji's net zero transformation stream is the envy of the global north. They know, we're going to become a global energy superpower, and there's nothing they can do about it.
Posted by Steve S, Thursday, 19 September 2024 10:00:50 AM
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"Renewables do lower costs, with many regions seeing power prices drop due to wind and solar".

Out of the mouth of Bowen, probably. Can anyone say that they have being paying less for electricity under the Albanese regime?

It's the power bills that tell the truth.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 19 September 2024 10:07:17 AM
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Did anyone else here note that South Australia had to curtail 99% of its solar output recently? Much more to come the more of this rubbish that comes online.
Posted by Fester, Thursday, 19 September 2024 10:40:07 AM
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Pundits are now saying that the Coalition could - even will - win the next election.

I have my doubts, but given the appalling record of the Albanese regime and the hurt it has inflicted on ordinary Australians, maybe, just maybe, those ordinary Australians have had enough after just two plus years of the worst government - not just the worst Labor government - in living history.

57% of Australians say they are much worse off under the Albanese Socialist regime. About 30% - roughly the same as Labor’s first preference vote at the election - said they were no worse off, and the usual few wackos didn't know.

Albanese has been, and continues to be, “lamentable”.

. Driven by Left-wing dogma
. Insists on Net Zero, which is costly and useless; but so does the Coalition, one of the things against them winning
. Massive increase in CPI and energy
. Massive immigration. Something the Coalition must fix
. Massive numbers of foreign students immigrating through the back door
. Federal Education Minister Jason Clare has admitted that Australian universities will have roughly the same number of foreign students starting next year as they did last year
. Albanese is treating the economy as his “plaything”, “enriching those who pay subservience to ‘the Party’ via the union movement”
.Trashing farmland, pristine wilderness with windmills and solar panels
. Repelling investors with green tape and expensive energy
. Business us turning against Albanese

The Coalition has a lot to do, a lot of changes to make. They are not perfect, but after the misery Australians are experiencing under the Albanese regime, they are Australia's only hope.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 19 September 2024 11:36:58 AM
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Could someone who knows please provide information as to what renewable energy that has less emission than coal or Diesel power is presently in use?
Hydro-electric is the only one I'm aware of that's doing that once the infrastructure has been completed.
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 20 September 2024 7:50:11 AM
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“It's the power bills that tell the truth.” ttbn 19 September.
We put solar panels on our roof as quickly as we could after buying in early 2005. We have not paid for electricity since then.
Posted by Brian of Buderim, Monday, 23 September 2024 9:32:55 AM
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