Hi Paul,

"Flawed human behaviour long before the final event resulted in the rise of evil, which as a consequence resulted in the atomic bombs being dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki To me that is simply a timeline of mistakes, which we as a human society need to work to avoid."

Isn't that hypothetical reasoning? The Nazis used such reasoning to justify their horrors on the basis of it being the natural order of things.

"I want to see the causes of evil eliminated in the first instance, you want to deal with the reality of what exists."

I think it better to uphold the principle of equality by treating all human beings equally. I think it better to resolve problems rather than bear grudges. The ethos of Palestinians is one eliminating what they perceive as the cause of evil, namely Israel. That's why they teach their kids to be genocidal, and Albo and Pen Pen help them to that end by donating Australian taxpayer money to UNRWA.

There's a certain point for incompetent Govt or rather its administration, when they over-step the mark at which the nonsense dished out to the nonsensical masses is simply no longer acceptable. Western Woke mentality has now put one foot over that mark.

Hi Paul

Just because something is the “official Israeli line” doesn’t make it wrong.

There is much about Israel’s behaviour in the current conflict and before that I disapprove of, but I also think it faces an existential threat and has the right and responsibility to try to minimise that threat. I also think that the blame for the recent suffering in Gaza lies overwhelmingly at the feet of Hamas, not Israel.

Modern urban warfare is almost always destructive and bloody with high civilian casualties. In Gaza this is magnified by the fact that Hamas intentionally puts civilians in harm’s way for military and propaganda purposes. The chair of urban warfare studies at the Modern War Institute at West Point, John Spencer, argues that Israel has done more to prevent civilian casualties in war than any military in history. If you disagree, can you cite a counter-factual?

Accusations of murder, war crimes and even attempted genocide are being weaponised against Israel when it is clear that one party to this conflict is unashamedly and unequivocally guilty of all three, and that party is Hamas. This is a grotesque and vile inversion, and why I agree with Graeme that many of those demonstrating against Israel do not want peace – quite the opposite

"You think of the atomic bomb, but what might have happened if the United States had taken no interest in fighting Nazism or Japanese imperialism?"

- Different situations.

US foreign policy after the end of the Cold War is built around the Wolfowitz doctrine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine

U.S. STRATEGY PLAN CALLS FOR INSURING NO RIVALS DEVELOP
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/03/08/world/us-strategy-plan-calls-for-insuring-no-rivals-develop.html

United States ongoing battle to retain supremacy is suicidal to all of us and will destroy the entire planet one way or the other - militarily or economically.
Russia has a strategic nuclear doctrine based around an existential threat.
US policy is an existential threat to Russia, it's in their policy papers on .gov websites.
https://www.csce.gov/briefings/decolonizing-russia-a-moral-and-strategic-imperative/
They've been doing the same kind of thing to China, using terrorists to attack Chinese Belt and Road infrastructure, trying to hamper progress and expansion.
They do this stuff all over the world, they claim a right to intervene anywhere, anytime.

Here's a trade time lapse of Trade USA V's China 1980 - 2018
https://howmuch.net/articles/trade-timelapse-usa-china

China is nearly the entire worlds largest trading partner.
A war with China is a war against the whole world.

what might have happened if the United States had taken no interest in fighting Nazism
Armchair Critic,
From what I've read & observed there definitely wouldn't be any Woke & Neo Nazis around now. I think stupidity on the scale we're seeing now would have died by the wayside a long time ago !

As a long-term member of the Greens, in both Sydney, first, and the Sunshine Coast, now, let me tell you that the demonstrators may look like Greens but they are not.
They are GINOs - Greens in name only. Thanks to the odious Trunp for that acronym.