Kudos mhaze.

mhaze,

That was the wrong link. The figures I found actually said between 1500-2000 up until the end of 2022. I opted to show only the lower amount because if we found that it was actually 1501, you would have portrayed the 1500-2000 as a reason to not trust the data or to cast doubt over everything else I’ve said.

Sad, isn’t it?

It looks like you may get to keep that other foot for now, though.

This is irrelevant, anyway. To show you why, I'm happy to go with whatever dodgy figures you find on some right-wing crank website. Why? because what I said earlier still stands:

"Sweden’s overall death rate [and overall excess death rate] was due to their robust “Marxist” healthcare system, socioeconomic factors, vaccines, and herd immunity. I’ve already explained this. Their death rate was higher before the vaccines were available and the virus evolved to become weaker. The public also started to exercise more caution because of the initial death rate caused by lax intervention policies."

Excess deaths per 100,000 of population for period for period 2/2020 - 3/2023 as compared to average of period 2015-2019:

Sweden 72.7
Australia 134.6

As to "“Marxist” healthcare system,"

I don't think Sweden has a Marxist health system. It works and nothing Marxist ever works.

Thanks mhaze. Also I don't see Sweden as the utopian Marxist socialist paradise that the Woke Marxist Labor Party seemingly superficially proclaims. Sweden until recently was apparently an ethnically homogeneous state similar to Britain seemingly based on the localist "cottage industry" model. Marxists are globalists that believe in ideological control of the economy and the people based on Dialectic Materialism.

The dual method being-
1. the destruction of the claimed "false consciousness" of cultural traditions under the auspices of giving power to the people (but in fact taking the power away by constantly reframing authorised reality).
2. taking the economic power away from the 'capitalists' and giving it to the people (which in reality means giving the economic power to the academic universities in the form of red tape and government spending based on proscribed authority. Note- Elon Musk in his recent "once and future"-Pres Trump interview talked about "red tape and government spending").

Swedes seem to be very impatient with people that don't pull their own weight within the community, whereas Woke Marxists prefer that the mass of the electorate isn't engaged.

Libertarian's such as Ayn Rand say that everything is about money, that is why they are easily manipulated by Marxist's. But most people don't read Ayn Rand properly, and she gets some things wrong.

mhaze,

Thanks for the figures. Like I said, though, they don’t help your argument.

Sweden’s excess death rate was terrible in the first year, and dropped after that for many reasons other than herd immunity - some of which I’ve already mentioned (e.g. different population structures, healthcare systems, and social dynamics).

In Sweden’s defence, you could argue that the pandemic was unprecedented. However, there are still many reasons as to why lockdowns were the more sensible route:

1. They minimise the potential dangers of an unknown virus with uncertain transmission and mortality rates.

2. They help prevent healthcare systems from becoming overwhelmed

3. They buy time for the development of a safer path to herd immunity (i.e. vaccines).

4. They provide better protection for vulnerable populations.

5. They reduce the likelihood of widespread disruption and panic.

6. They provide a framework for economic and social stability, supported by government aid, despite the short-term disruptions.

7. They lowered the chances of new and potentially dangerous mutations emerging.

Given all the reasons to opt for strict measures to reduce infection rates, your baseless conspiracy theory about governments taking advantage of the pandemic to seize power looks downright paranoid and delusional.

Never mind my “Marxist” Jibe. It’s directed at some here who don’t know what Marxism is and take the more American view that a public healthcare system is “socialised medicine!”

Never mind my “Marxist” Jibe. It’s directed at some here who don’t know what Marxism is and take the more American view that a public healthcare system is “socialised medicine!”
Posted by John Daysh

Answer- In America public healthcase probably is Marxist "socialised medicine" because there is a culture that accuses any cooperation with the White system of being an Uncle Tom. To support public healthcare in the US would be much more expensive for the taxpayers than just getting health insurance. All the advantage of group behavior is lost by the freeloaders. Personally I think that the best thing to do would be to gift the Afro-American's San Francisco and half of California and put a wall around it. Maybe they'll make a successful territory out of it- maybe not- but it's up to them. Africa is a pretty large land area 4x the size of the US, how can they scream that they are being marginalized, it is the Whites being marginalized by slumification, rather than gentrification. If things are so bad in the US why not go to Africa as Candice Owens suggests. Maybe they can get a genetic essay and find out where their ancestors originated.

There's a fair bit of freeloading of immigrant cultures on Anglo-cultures in the UK and Australia too. At this point it's pointless to spend our taxes on infrastructure, because the capacity is just used to bring in more immigrants, our taxes are supporting our enemies. What about user pays. I go to the movies and buy a ticket, and the usher tells me my ticket is for the desperate person who can't afford one- what! Everyone is desperate some are just more willing to plan. We can't solve everyones problems. For some people and cultures poverty is a choice.

In 13 years there will be 9 billion people- hopefully we'll address some of these sustainability issues rather than kicking them down the road.

“There is no avoiding war, it can only be postponed to the advantage of your enemy.”
― Niccolò Machiavelli