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By John Mikkelsen, published 14/6/2024So while the Teslas pile up unwanted at Port Melbourne and sales of EVs are declining globally, they represent just the tip of the iceberg on which the Western world seems destined to founder.
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The West seems determined to kill itself off.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 14 June 2024 8:49:27 AM
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#The West seems determined to kill itself off# ttbn
Another four years of “Cryonic Joe”, and the West will be Iran! Posted by diver dan, Friday, 14 June 2024 9:22:59 AM
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I was almost finding this author credible until he quoted:
"each chip uses roughly as much electricity each year as three electric vehicles." without specific citations, details or questioning that statement. and then the author claimed "The "mega" prefix was coined in 1873, to name 1,000 kilos." No. Mega doesn't mean a thousand, Mega means a million. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega- "Mega is a unit prefix in metric systems of units denoting a factor of one million (10 [to the power of 6 ie.] 1000000)." This article needs more hyperlinks to support its more dubious statements. Posted by Maverick, Friday, 14 June 2024 2:15:56 PM
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Further to my questioning above.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega-#Computing See the "SI prefixes" Table: "mega M 10 [to the power of 6] 1000000 [coined in] 1873" Posted by Maverick, Friday, 14 June 2024 2:24:47 PM
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Maverick, I don't think you're understanding what the author is actually saying regarding the prefixes for units of mass. One 1000 kilograms *is* 1 Mega gram.
Also, I just did a rough back-of-the-envelop (to one significant digit) calculation for the amount of energy consumed by an advanced AI chip running flat-out over a year compared to the average use of a family car. Advanced AI chips are ballpark 1kW, and a model Y Telsa being the most sold EV (actually I think it is most sold car in the world even when including ICE cars) has an efficiency of ballpark 20kWh/100km and the average house car does about 15000km/yr (in Australia anyway). So when you crunch these numbers, 3x the amount of energy for the chip v's the car is a reasonable claim. Chip=1kWx24hx365days=8760kWh which is approx 9000kWh, Telsa=20kWh/100kmx15000km=3000kWh Posted by thinkabit, Friday, 14 June 2024 4:06:19 PM
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It looks like the new Nvidia B200 chips are designed for 'datacentres' not 'home' computers. If so the comparison of Advanced AI Chips with home car battery recharging systems is nonpertinent. But 'thinkabit's' calculations appear to be correct and B200 Chips do run at 1000W = 1kWh/h.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidias-jensen-huang-says-blackwell-gpu-to-cost-dollar30000-dollar40000-later-clarifies-that-pricing-will-vary-as-they-wont-sell-just-the-chip A lot of AI chip technology has seemingly been around for thirty years or more (remember the Cray Supercomputers, RISC, etc) based on massive parallelism. Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 15 June 2024 3:07:31 AM
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