There are some very broad issues here before we even get to the details. First of all the idea of passing laws based on race is fraught. The UK for example doesn't do it. Next is the incongruous way that light skinned people who claim to be aboriginal see themselves as oppressed and not the oppressor. Another is the additional welfare and spending that aborigines get compared to non-aborigines. Surely that helps ease the supposed pain. As a result of European settlement they have had electricity, clean water, modern transport, modern medicine, writing in a widely spoken language and policing of violence.

Aborigines have held themselves out as victims for that last 250 years. The Voice would make it official; they're victims for at least the next 250 years. Instead of the Voice they could try getting more results for the same money from the Canberra fatcats in the NIAA. They could also get over it.

The collateral benefit of the voice is that these silent voices will also be heard. The voice will sharpen our understanding of the complexities associated with living in a socially and culturally diverse society.

The above is a clear indicator of someone who has no idea !

It seems that the voters in the Aboriginal Affairs ministers seat will be voting NO.

With her incompetence in Parliament, and inability to answer questions, Burney might be getting a big NO at the next federal election as well.

I will be voting no, as will many full blood aborigines fed up to the back teeth, with their aspirations being decide by elite urbanised Mixed race urban "Blacks"! Or unelected elite "Elders"? None of it has worked thus far and needs to change. If the elected representatives cannot change outcomes for the better, then why keep throwing good money after bad?
Alan B

Off topic and on a personal note, home from hospital after having a malignant tumour removed from the side of my face. The doctors believe they got it all and the recovery is going well.
Alan B.

What Taswegian says.
Alan B.

This is presently doing the rounds on the Net. I don't know about the validity of this so I left out the names .

I just have to mention this. I was to go to Mudgee next Tuesday for an initial talk with the Warrabinga-Wiradjuri group concerning preliminary access onto a Mudgee tenement we were granted . Then we got a call asking who they were to invoice. We said, for what? They said, ‘sitting fees’ for six people at $700 a head, plus travel (........), plus the cost of the ............meeting room and we think plus the costs of their WA native heritage solicitor .............. who was flying over. Going forward they wanted $10K for legals on a pro forma agreement that stipulated $10K be paid to them for every year we held the tenement. Then if we wanted to actually do any actual geological work we had to get a native title heritage report done ($20K) and then they would let us know what their costs would be for watching us explore.

Anyone stupid enough to vote yes will be giving Albanese a weapon to belt the average Ozzie into submission.

Anyone with a brain should realise there is a reason he has kept any details completely hidden.

Yup spot on.

The race powers within the Constitution only get directed at Indigenous Australians.

As the cry from the Eureka Rebellion goes "That it is the inalienable right of every citizen to have a voice in making the laws he is called upon to obey".

A Constitutionally enshrined Voice to inform Constitutional powers only directed at Indigenous Australians seems bloody fair to me.

The race powers within the Constitution only get directed at Indigenous Australians.
SteeleRedux,
Really ? Whenever I turn on ABC Radio it's all saturation racism, massacres, poor health, inadequate housing etc etc.
ABC should stand for Aborigine Bleating Company ! Why is it that everything that comes from effort is demanded by the Indigenous yet nothing is offered by them in return ?