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The Voice? I'm over it! : Comments

By John Mikkelsen, published 9/10/2023

The Voice is a move to enshrine an unelected advisory body in the Australian Constitution which will further divide our great nation on racial grounds.

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“An Aboriginal leader is a person to whom other people will listen, and who can create and maintain consensus," writes Frances Morphy, a Fellow at the Centre for Aboriginal Economic Policy Research (CAEPR) at The Australian National University. "Thus, leadership is conferred conditionally and has to be constantly earned. It is a process rather than simply an ascribed position in a hierarchy.

There is also a big difference in where leaders stand. "The English metaphor implies a view of a leader as the apex [top] of a vertical hierarchy, whereas the [Aboriginal] metaphor implies a flat structure in which the leader forges ahead and others follow."

Aboriginal leaders wouldn’t consider their positions as powerful or privileged, but from a perspective of serving their people and nurturing their physical, spiritual, mental and emotional well-being. Leaders are holding and looking after the community they serve. »
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The authority of a member of an Aboriginal community is the recognition by the other members of the community of his or her particular qualities. Authority is not imposed. It is freely recognised by the community.

It is clear, therefore, that while there would be no formal election of the members of the Voice advisory body, members would be chosen by the traditional informal democratic practices of the various Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 2:06:06 AM
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Foxy "I can't believe all this belly aching and carrying
on. When what we're being asked to approve is so
modest."

I don't think that you could say it was modest if you read Document 14, anything but.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 7:34:26 AM
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It has been obvious for some time now that the $400,000,000 voice referendum is a huge waste of money. Albozo has pissed this money away to virtue signal, instead, all he has demonstrated is that he is a failure and a huge d!ckhead.

"Opinion polls showed a majority of Australians supported the Voice when Albanese first proposed the referendum after his centre-left Labor Party was elected last year. A poll published in The Australian newspaper on Monday showed 58% of respondents opposed the Voice and only 34% supported it."
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 10:11:11 AM
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The activists couldn't contain their glee in anticipation of the power being within their grasp !
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 7:06:49 AM
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I am afraid that after Saturday, the power is going to slip out of their grasp.
David
Posted by VK3AUU, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 7:29:05 AM
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Dear VK3AUU,

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You wrote :

« https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/bennelong-papers/2013/05/the-long-bloody-history-of-aboriginal-violence/

This might might throw some more truth into the argument.

David »
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It's true that the lore of hunter-gatherer tribes around the world is vastly different from that of modern civilised peoples who have evolved from that primitive state.

If a major colonising country had not decided to offload its convicts to Australia in 1788 the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander tribes that had been occupying it for over 65,000 years would probably have continued to enjoy living here for quite a few more years.

If treating their women badly was the thing the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander tribes did in those days that’s probably what we used to do too when we were hunter-gatherers.

But that was 10,000 years ago now. After that, we took up farming and raising animals.

But I’m not sure we stopped treating our women badly just because we became farmers and graziers.

The Declaration on the Elimination of Violence Against Women (abbreviated as DEVAW) was adopted without a vote by the United Nations General Assembly on 20 December 1993. That was only 30 years ago. And to think that some nations continue to vigorously oppose it !

Anyway, I guess it’s taken us non-indigenous Aussies 9,970 years to get where we are today on that since we were hunter-gatherers.

I hope our indigenous mates can do it a bit faster than that !

Don't you ?

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 8:08:14 AM
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