"Albanese is setting back the cause of indigenous Australians." Obviously true, but not part of the ABC-Guardian script, Murray.

When not if The Voice goes down, ABC-Guardian will be very quick to blame Racism, Dutton and Murdoch, and very slow to blame Albanese.

And also, The Voice was a ploy, to defer the issue of King Charles. Australia will never cut loose Buckingham Palace, under Autocrat Albanese.

Albanese has tied his fate to the Voice, silly man. Let's hope he and the Voice go down together.

The cost of this divisive nonsense? That alone should doom the thing, given the economy that Albanese isn't interested in. Voters might be thinking of the $40 billion a year spent, every year, on the aboriginal industry: twice what is spent on the rest of us.

They might also think about the alleged corruption and investigations into several aboriginal organisations, while they are lining up, possibly in the heat, forced into a stand alone vote that could have been held with a general election.

Atsic, Atsic, Atsic. Worse than Atsic; Atsic was dealt with by the Howard Government. The Voice, if successful, will be in place, dividing and costing forever.

The voice is bound to fail, and elbow knows it.

It is however, a very convenient distraction from issues like the cost of energy and all that flows from it. And energy generated inflation that other puts affordable housing even further away from young Australians!

So, he'll play it out for all he is worth then probably consider going to an early election while he leads in the polls? And do the lament thing about global issues the labor government has no control over as we prepare for war.
Alan B.

The voice is bound to fail, and elbow knows it.
Alan B,
Don't get too confident. I've spoke with quite a few seasoned dope addicts/Labor supporters from age 20-50. Their support is for the Voice & when you consider that these useless are a majority in the urban centres, things aren't looking all that good for sanity prevailing !

Racial discrimination in law is clearly a dead end. It's been 250 years since European settlement all of which time indigenous people have apparently been victims. Does that mean they will still be victims in say the year 2270? Here's me thinking the settlers brought clean water, electricity, modern medicine, long distance transport, a common language and electronic communication. No benefit apparently.

Somehow the UK hasn't caught on to voice, treaty and truth telling. Perhaps because all the different genetic influences have assimilated which could just possibly happen one day in Australia. However Albanese wants to make it harder for that to happen. I suggest he is living in a muddled world of wishful thinking, not only with race policy but with energy and immigration. I'd prefer both the Voice and Albanese to be consigned to history.

I'm not too confident, but many Australians including some indigenous Aussies are set to say no, there're higher order issues that need addressing first!

The cost of energy and a government that could do something about but won't because, for them, nuclear is most definitely off the table!

The voice will fail, but will serve its purpose, distract the average mug voter from important bread and butter issues! And divide Australians.
Alan B.

I have personally met more indigenous NO voters than Yes so far ! Goes to show they're switched on way more than the parasitic activists !

Labor haven't achieved enough positive outcomes ever since the Goaf & this sinister Voice experiment is very likely & hopefully finally exposing that Labor is no longer Labor !

Well look at all the nasty little knee tremblers scared witless over an advisory body to parliament.

And where has all the fearmongering come from? Mainly one Peter Dutton who had stoked similar flames about the Apology, all of which never happened.

You lot will vote along ideological and party lines as usual so no surprises there, but don't claim you are doing it for other than selfish reasons.

Our Constitution is framed the way it is because of racism, this would have evened the keel a little. I hope it does get up despite the underlying racism that prevails in this country.

SteeleRedux,
What you so ignorantly refer to as fear mongering is actually a sober assessment by people who have much better foresight than you'll ever possess of recent rhetoric by activists exposing their insidious agenda !
This foresight is based on past evidence !

despite the underlying racism that prevails in this country.
SteeleRedux,
You mean the "crying Wolf" racism ?

Dear Indyvidual,

Was in Ballarat when Pat Farmer, the former Liberal politician who is running around Australia arrived in town. He spoke about when the Apology was flagged and he was in the room with Howard and Dutton among others. He said there was eminent person after eminent person who came in to speak of the risks of the Apology, of the billions it would cost the country, and after Rudd gave it none of it happened.

It would be exactly the same if the Voice gets up.

Don't be scared mate. Things will be alright.

and after Rudd gave it none of it happened.
SteeleRedux,
None of it happened ! Are you for real ?

Der Indyvidual,

Of course I am, which is why I said it and why I quoted someone who was there.

What do you have?

What do you have?
SteeleRedux,
I have witnessed the growth of token Public Service positions at great expense & social cost to to all of us. It has given rise to activism which has led to the Voice, again at great cost all round.
I have witnessed the leniency in judicial matters leading to increased juvenile crime, also at great cost to all of us.
It has created increased wastage of funding for token projects. Health costs have also sky-rocketed due to token health care etc etc.
If you consider yourself as having the integrity to accept the evidence all around you then you should accept also that when it was said "An apology was all we want" has proven to be not so !

Dear Indyvidual,

What a load of hogwash.

Did the Black fellas get a bit uppity did they?

So nothing to do with the fact that when Abbott got in he stripped 600 million from direct spending on social services and housing. Many initiatives were defunded, and then various Liberal state government went stupidly hard on law and order which saw incarceration rates of mainly black kids sky-rocket.

Come on, you can do better than that.

Come on, you can do better than that.
SteeleRedux,
Time you started taking your own advise. Opening your eyes & ears & learn about integrity & how to acquire some is a good start !

I think the indigenous should be encouraged to join Border Patrol 'cos I think they'd do a good job.
By he attendance on the passport gates over the last few days it doesn't look like anyone is available to work.
Traffic was faster through the gates ten years ago than today, but then everything was more efficient ten years ago.