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The right to bite : Comments

By John Mikkelsen, published 21/9/2023

Where are equal rights when it comes to some of the wildlife which shares our great country?

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Never go into the sea myself. But people who do are entitled not to be killed by sharks.

All sharks, all dangerous-to-human animals should be removed. Protecting them is the idea of insane people.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 21 September 2023 8:22:07 AM
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Dear Ttbn,

And who are you expecting to give you that unnatural (and impossible) "right" to not be killed? Government?
They are the biggest sharks who bite many more millions of people than these poor sea creatures which you want dead.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 21 September 2023 8:36:51 AM
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People will go wherever they can but most of them demand to be able to do so in absolute safety !
The mentality of adventure has been bred out & all we have now are thrill seekers who demand others sacrifice their time & effort for them & their safety !
If a naturally dangerous predatory animal becomes a stalker of humans then well, what else other than killing it can be done to limit the danger. Those people who encourage crocodiles to jump for food in the presence of humans are literally teaching the animals to associate boats & humans with readily available food !
Yes, crocodile do leap out of the water naturally but now they're conditioned to not fear boats anymore ! This puts humans into far more danger than they would otherwise be exposed to.
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 21 September 2023 9:19:22 AM
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The beauty of a shark attack is the victim will bleed out and die quickly.

Isn’t Mother Nature beautiful.
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 21 September 2023 10:27:48 AM
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Some people are quite deranged when it comes to animals. There is now a plan for a 315,000 hectare 'Great Koala Park' in the Coffs Coast Region.

Why? "Koalas are officially endangered"; (untrue) "Most NSW koalas live outside of protected areas"; (their choice) "The park will benefit hundreds of species"; (proof?) "It will help protect us from global heating"; (BS!), and "It will bring more ecotourism to the area"; (again proof?: probably comes from economic illiteracy, desperation for more taxpayers' money, ignorance of human behaviour).

There's a list of 'whys' on the website, each of which is opinion rather than fact.

Koalas are an irruptive species in absolutely no danger of extinction and in no need of protection. They are actually intruding into areas they never lived in before. And, they are victims of virtue-signalling nitwits trying to 'save' them. Indicative of the motives of this group is one of their number who told an enquiry that, "We need a lot of money".

OK. Sharks are not cuddly koalas. But people who get hysterical about animals - because they are not very good with fellow humans - are all the same: a real pain in the bum; real nuisances and leeches on the public purse.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 21 September 2023 10:32:28 AM
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Agree with most of this. As for Fraser Island dingoes, should be a catch, relocate and release program before culling. There are wild places where they would help the feral cat problem.

Hungry wild dogs are always aggressive and starving ones are killers. We need to kill some crocs that are invading new territory, and that end, gun laws need to be reformed.

There's a place for snakes that never ever includes suburbia. You need to go into their territory, remember to wear gumboots.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 21 September 2023 10:42:57 AM
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Around here aggressive snakes are removed quickly & painlessly. We have had 2 dogs killed, the result of a silly little bitch who attacked them.

We are of course the only species who stupidly protects it's predators. Back in the day, when I gathered much of my food under water I carried a power head. A spear with a shot gun cartridge armed head. Illegal now when the safety of our predators trumps our safety.

I spent a week with the shark callers of the Solomon Islands in the 70s. That took painted cray off my menu, I have not gone into the ocean again, unless I had to, unless surrounded by a lot of other human bait.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 21 September 2023 11:45:06 AM
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Defining dingoes as native animals raises interesting questions in other areas. The dingo is a recent introduction to Australia, believed to be about 5 - 6000 years ago from India. It effectively eradicated marsupial carnivore competition such as the Tasmanian tiger and Tasmanian devil which were also on mainland Australia. The competitors survived in Tasmania which was isolated from the mainland about 12,000 years ago. In other debates at what point do we consider incursions of other peoples to now be native.
Posted by TFX, Thursday, 21 September 2023 2:04:04 PM
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We change the natural world to suit ourselves.
But we must be wary of making too many changes.
We don't want to destroy the very system which supports us.
'Gooses' and 'golden eggs' come to mind.
We should leave the natural world alone when we can.
And this includes not encroaching unnecessarily on the main living areas used by other life forms.
If you want to swim, do it in a pool, not the sea.
Or a 'fenced off' part of the sea perhaps?
The sea, and all it contains, is vitally important to our survival.
Leave it alone.
Leave the vegetation alone when we can too.
Minimal disruption to natural processes is best for us.
If we mess up the world, it will recover over time.
But we won't.
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Thursday, 21 September 2023 4:42:21 PM
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I have an arrangement with the sharks, they don't come on the beach, and I don't go in their ocean.

Natural swimming holes may come with a few nasty surprises. But hardly, the community swimming pool.

Those spear guns with a shotgun shell in the head were good protection from what you could see, but not what you couldn't. Safety first means you don't dive alone.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 21 September 2023 4:58:07 PM
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There are a couple of sides to that Ipso Fatso. Don't forget we are still part of that nature.

Over 50 years ago now I was running the boats for a resort island in the Whitsundays. We had a few sun birds on the island which most of us were very fond of. They seamed to know humans were their friend & sort our protection. The boss had a broken Louver in an office window, & in no time the sun birds had found this & built one nest hanging from the light fitting, & another from a cup hook screwed into the ceiling. I did wonder where & when that had appeared.

Strict instructions were issued that the broken louver was not to be replaced. Meanwhile up in the workshop the tough bikey type who ran the power system had fashioned chicken wire netting around a couple of sun bird nests hanging from the rafters. The sun birds happily passed through the wire, but he hoped it would keep out the Currawongs which destroyed the nests to get at the chicks, as soon as their cheeping was heard.

I happend to be there one day when the bikey was bending up a Y from some 1/2" steel rod. A mechanic asked him what he was doing. Making a catapult to chase the Currawongs was the reply. The mechanic, a bit of a greeny, horrified said you cant do that, it is part of nature for Currawongs to eat chicks. The reply, I've got news for the Currawongs, I'm part of nature too, & I don't like them attacking my sun birds.

I guess there must be a bit of bikey in me too, as I agreed with him completely.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 21 September 2023 5:24:57 PM
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Life is so full of surprises, and interesting twists and turns, that I fail to see why some get bored with it.
Open you eyes, and there it is, right in front of you, in 3D and brilliant 'technicolor'.
Thank you for that heart-warming story Mr 'Certainly Is'.
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Friday, 22 September 2023 1:11:42 PM
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