Various talking heads assured us that the wholesale cost of wind and solar would be about $50 per MWh or 5c per KWh. Somehow household power bills end up charging around 30c per KWh so some major cost components have clearly been omitted. I suggest these include transmission, frequency correction, profit margin, expensive gas backup and the need to buy green certificates or carbon credits. In my own case I spent $13k this year on a battery system but my power bills have gone up dramatically.

The intergenerational report just out continues this delusion by assuming we'll continue with higher power bills past 2050 but it will be just a slight inconvenience. I think it will be a crisis before 2030. Whole industries like aluminium smelting will shut down unless they can blackmail big subsidies out of the govt. There will be calls to nationalise electricity production and/or reduce immigration. Meanwhile we the hapless voters have a choice of the Libs or Labs who will do neither of those things. Expect a bumpy ride.

The questions posed have a simple philosophical solution; simply redefine what is a terrorist.

Democracy is a dismal failure when the negative outcomes from the ruling classes miss-rule, fall squarely onto the shoulders of those most vulnerable in our communities.

I’m over watching people in my community starve, freeze to death in winter and die of heat exhaustion in summer; and then watch that same group pitched from their homes with unrealistic and totally devoid of conscience rent scorches, onto the street, living from the backs of cars if lucky enough to own one, as an alternative.

The current situation is beyond debate, and urgently calls for a state of emergency to deal with the increasing disaster as a priority.

Throwing at us alternatives to sensible Governance, alternatives of cultural equality rainbow flags, along now with a select group of blacks, who in most cases are fakes, given comfortable chairs in the lounges of ivory towers, needs to be called out!

One thing is certain and that is renewable energy is in the mix.

Certainly there is competition for that tax-payer money from both traditional and emerging energy technologies.

Some seem to think it has to be one or the other.

Taking charge of your own power needs is an option many take on for a variety of reasons not just cost cutting.

I remember many years ago when solar hot water systems started to become popular.

The then crazed state Premier suggested that the then state run power supplier should start charging those with the solar systems for the cost for the grid electricity they were no longer using.

It seemed crazy to me at the time but not any more.

Mass immigration is the cause of the housing crisis. 'Supply' has actually increased. Prices will climb even higher though, with the political clases's attacks on gas appliances and rubbish like double glazing (!) as part of the carbon dioxide myth. One Queensland builder about to deal with that state's lunacy reckons the nutty government will add $100,000 to the price of a house.

The untalented Coalition government was incompetent and downright stupidly self-serving, and left-wing; a suitable description has yet to emerge for the Albomorons.

Electricity. Well, that's another piece of political lunacy that defies description. We will have to leave that to future historians to work out what sort of brain fart brought that about. From a reduction of $275 a year, to progressive increases. They will find it hard to explain how an idiot and a liar like Albanese ever got to be Prime Minister.

TTBN has got it. Housing and electricity un-affordability are system features, not bugs. Because massive immigration is now a baked-in system feature. Chalmers is using the same immigration figure as Frydenberg, 235,000, but massively overshooting it, and lying about it.

Morrison was awful, but you can't get anywhere, until you arrive at the simple realisation that woke Albanese is better for the rich, worse for everyone else. Where I live - Canberra - they'll never get it.

Both arguably, the result of ungoverned greed which also has to include many politicians, surely?

Other than that, both are affected by the cost of energy and flow on economic factors.

And because we are stuck with prohibitively expensive coal gas and oil, and a pollical class to gormless or greedy or both to transition to nuclear as homegrown MSR thorium.

As Forest Gump said, stupid is as stupid does. And simply has to apply to, stupidity personified, Labor's front bench.
Alan B.

Well, I am afraid that we have reached a point of no return.
It is too late to continue the renewable nonsense as a crash in our
economy now seems certain. Too much has been wasted on an electrical
system that cannot work.
The nutters that voted the money to build it will never admit that
they got it wrong and will send us all broke spending $Trillions on
batteries trying to make it work.
If we manage to get a new government that accepts we must just cut
our losses and start again we could, if the closing power stations are
kept instead of being blown up, then build some new coal power
stations as the queue to get new modular nuclear stations will be
decades long.
I think the exit of the aluminium refiners is now certain unless
everyone agrees to have power cuts to keep them on line.

I cannot see how we can avoid an economic crash and the migrant intake
must be reduced to zero. We cannot afford their unemployment benefits.

Nuclear power can be reticulated for 3 cents or less to all users. As MSR ten thorium or as MSR nuclear waste-burners, burning fuel we are paid to take.

And given we did the latter, become a manufacturing superpower inside a decade that could burn all competition.

And be able to defend ourselves against all comers, thanks to a robust manufacturing sector that'll be without peer!

Never going to happen with coal or gas and power prices likely to exceed 50 cents PKWH.

And intermittent battery backed renewables, even more expensive, if they have enough battery capacity to match coal or gas!
Alan B.

The Treasurer is now telling us how it will be in 2063, when most of them won't be around. Albanese himself would be 100.

This is pretty cheeky, given that they can't deal with the here and now.

The population is predicted to be 40 million by then. So the immigration Ponzi scheme - people at the bottom of the pyramid paying for the few at the top - will continue.

The BS about the environment and poor old carbon dioxide gets more hypocritical all the time. And the economy will still be in deficit in 40 years time.

Business commentator, Terry McCann, deems the 'intergenerational report' to be "analytical idiocy", and who knows where the country will be in 40 years time. Nowhere if this net zero rubbish is not dropped, and we don't go back to using the cheap, available natural resources we are blessed with.

The Albanese government is on life support now, according to McCann.

The price of everything is skyrocketing under Albanese; and he has shown no indication that he will - or can - do a thing about it: the latest sign being his continued rewarding of Qantas for that company's support for of the Voice (and son's entreè to the posh people's lounge?) by refusing to allow the fare-reducing increase of Qatar flights.

The man is so obvious! This one has to be seen as intentional, just like his priority to rapidly reduce emissions reductions (of useful carbon dioxide) by jacking up the price of electricity.

Pollies waffle on about international circumstances they have no control over. But rub their hands with glee over energy prices that gives them a budget surplus they will claim was due to their superior management. A fool's paradise and stupidity personified!

If we had much cheaper energy, everything else would be cheaper with adequate competition.

Cheap energy would make rapid rail viable, and a 3-mile-wide corridor that could be mostly rezoned as urban then sold as such, would all but pay for the project and solve the housing crisis in one fowl swoop.

And here I'm thinking 900 klms per hour VLT. That would beat the pants off aviation! And serve the nation for possibly several centuries.

Or, until the solid-state, carbon free, Goulding star drive, makes air travel king once more.
Alan B,

The recent announcement that the government is going to pay the coal
fired stations to be on standby for when the renewables die each
sunset and the sea breeze dies until the land breeze picks up, is an
admission of failure.
So the renewable will get paid just for being there and at the same
time the coal & gas stations will be paid to be waiting in the wings.
We taxpayers are real STUPID !
Knowing how STUPID they were over blowing up the coal stations before
the replacement was installed, we now double up on subsidies !
I would like to see someone calculate how much extra tax we pay each
for these payments. Then we can add our bills on and see what the
dollars per Kw/hr come to.
It will be a lot more than $275 !

Just wait till this Govt has to start importing coal at huge cost to maintain their idiotic no coal mining policy !

Tertiary education is now firmly part of the immigration industry; this is on top of massive 'real' immigration and the recently increased (20,000) intake of other people posing as "refugees".

458 visas (graduate visas) are popular with "students", who get full working rights and a leg up for permanent residency.

Albanese has also made things easier for anyone to add to our burgeoning population by abolishing the 'Genuine Student Test' on visa applications.

Thanks to Albanese, we will soon have no say in who can rock up to Australia, and what they can get away with. Rudd's open borders with "refugees" policy, but with a hell of a lot more of them.

Australia's population has once reached a target population of 25 million, TWENTY years before the "experts" said it would. The "expert" rambling of the bureaucrats telling us that we will have a population of 40 million in 40 years time looks likely to well and truly understated also.

And, there is not a politician who wants to do a thing about it.

We have not been able to cater for the 7.5 million increase in population over a century. Australia will have gone well and truly under in another 40 years, when most of the rotten people responsible for Big Australia will be dead or heading that way.

The country is already suffering chronic shortages of housing and infrastructure. It is not going to be able to handle another (predicted) 350,000 people every year; even in high-rise chicken coops, which will be the norm.

And, the wackjob Left - including those masquerading as Liberals - are still harping on the absolute bulldust of net zero!

While this is all happening, the Ponzi scheme operators will be getting richer, and the rest of us will be getting poorer. I would like to add 'angrier', but your average Australians don't seem to feel anything these days. They just mill around like sheep, and allow the likes of Albanese to do as they please.

Just 30% of us understand economics and 30% understand politics, with 40% understanding neither! It's that 40%, that decide all elections. And as usual elect incompetence or corruption or both. No names or pack drill, but if the cap fits?
Alan B.

Bazz & Indyvidual

While we are killing coal, foreigners are making a mint out of Bowenidiocy.

75% of wind and solar generation is owned by foreign countries. Foreigners are using our productive farmlands and delicate environment to suck money out of.

These same foreign countries themselves use our coal to boost their economies, while we use their gadgets to ruin our economy.

And, when the windmills and panels wear out, it will be up to the Australian landowners, paid a relative pittance for allowing their land to be made useless, who will be paying for their removal.

You cannot get government this stupid without stupid voters.