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Equality of opportunity in an unequal world : Comments

By Steven Schwartz, published 5/6/2023

Everyone agrees—all children should have a fair equal opportunity to high-quality education. But how is this possible?

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Education is necessary.
We must pass on accumulated knowledge to the new generation we have produced.
Otherwise they will start life with a cave-man outlook.
Do we want to live in a world controlled by such persons. as we journey in to old age?

Teaching is one side of the equation.
Learning is the other.
Not all persons are the same.
In an ideal world, education would be tailored to suit each individual.
And it must transfer adequate information to students, in a suitably palatable form.
In other words, it should be quality education.

I remember occasions when students from private schools came to our public school.
It was notable that they had not achieved the same level of knowledge that we had.
It was like they were six months behind us.
I hope it is not still the same in private schools.
The new students caught up quickly, so I think our school provided a superior learning environment.

There are a few persons who simply cannot absorb information, however it is taught.
They exist by being 'street smart', and 'fudging' there way through everyday life.
I have met them, so I know they exist.
They are usually very decent people.

We might not have a perfect system, but it is better than no system at all?
And mostly, we have good dedicated teachers to teach our children.
So keep it all going, whilst looking for ways to improve it.
The importance of teachers is overlooked?
The do their best, so shortcomings are due to system deficiencies, rather than their untiring efforts?
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Monday, 5 June 2023 3:08:28 PM
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Public school is training for people to become low paid employees
Such as childcare workers, toilet cleaners, factory and retail workers or garbage men.
Private school is training for people to become employers and academics.
Parents pay for their kids to go to private school so their kids won't have to grow up to become childcare workers, toilet cleaners, factory and retail workers or garbage men.
Not only that, its also about who you know.
Go to a private school and all your schoolmates will become employers and academics.
Even if you are a dumb loser you'll still succeed because all the people you grew up with are employers and academics.
In private schools you'll be surrounded by all the cream.
In public schools you'll be surrounded by all the crud.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 5 June 2023 4:32:04 PM
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A quote from a prof. in my B.Ed. days back in the 60's : There is nothing so unequal as the equal treatment of unequals.
Posted by Francesca, Monday, 5 June 2023 5:28:09 PM
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Schools are there for kids to learn how to read & write & depending on the teacher they're lumped with, to think !
The rest is up to parents & the youngsters themselves & the Television programming in their area !
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 5 June 2023 8:55:05 PM
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Government schools are never going to be worth the cost while controlled by the union. While lazy & incompetent teachers can not be sacked the system fills with those who could not hold down any job in the private sector, thousands of kids get a miserable education.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 5 June 2023 9:24:26 PM
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Dear Ipso Fatso,

«Education is necessary.»

Absolutely so.

'Education' comes from 'educe' - to bring out, to develop, so that the child grows to use their full potential, which is already within them.

Education does NOT mean to push ideas into a child that were not in him/her to begin with - that is indoctrination, and that is definitely not what a child needs!

So while education is necessary, an "education system" is dangerous because it tends to indoctrinate children into whatever benefits the system rather than what benefits them.

I am all for education, I am all against education systems, certainly those run by states.

«Otherwise they will start life with a cave-man outlook.»

That sounds promising!

Did you know that, unlike the common legends and stereotypes, the cave-man treated women equally?
Both men and women hunted and gathered together, there was no hierarchy.
Patriarchy and discrimination against women started much later, when states were formed: as states fought each other, their leaders/kings constantly needed more soldiers to replace the dead, so they sent the women home to breed.

«Do we want to live in a world controlled by such persons. as we journey in to old age?»

Ideally nobody should be in control, but compared with those in control today (who thanks to AI are soon to be replaced by robots), I would certainly prefer the world to be controlled by cave-men.

«There are a few persons who simply cannot absorb information... They are usually very decent people.»

I would go further and say that they are usually the best and the ones with the biggest heart - these are the most wholesome and discerning ones who refuse to swallow junk information that modern society tries to feed them: I salute them!

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Dear Critic,

Public school teaches children to be selfish and want to make money by becoming employers and academics. They fail and instead become cleaners.
Private school teaches children to make a real contribution and help others by becoming nurses and cleaners. They fail and instead burden others by becoming employers and academics.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 5 June 2023 11:57:28 PM
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