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What if Albanese doesn’t care if the Voice succeeds? : Comments

By Graham Young, published 2/6/2023

It certainly seems to be the Democrat model in America where President Joe Biden talks about the Republicans as domestic terrorists.

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Sounds like a gish gallop attack-
1. The Voice
2. Indian immigration
3. Republic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

If one of them gets through the Labor party communists win big.

Voters need to acknowledge that the contemporary Labor Party is not the party of the 1940s. But Labor voters have an alternative in the DLP Democratic Labour Party- (Loosely Catholic/ Christian Labour).
Posted by Canem Malum, Friday, 2 June 2023 6:43:34 PM
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BUT CM,

The D.L.P, not on your life? cross carrying COMMUNISTS no less! Don't ya remember old B.A. (BOB) Santamaria and his National Civic Council, and his Saturday afternoon talks on the telly! Marks in disguise if ever I saw one. Now ya are push'n for a vote for Christ knows what, those Bolsheviks types! I've got my concerns about YOU fella, could be a Marxists in disguise yaself, a cross carrying Groucho COMMUNIST! Just can't tell theses days with ya Leftist lot! I know about ya secret agenda, I know, ya wanta turn all us dinky-di's like meself, into tutu wearing pansies, forcing decent fellas, like meself, to shop at Ikea, whilst listen to ya old collection of Charles Aznavour records, now...that would be nothing short of torture, against the 'Believers Invention' and all that stuff!
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 3 June 2023 6:57:25 AM
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" Don't ya remember old B.A. (BOB) Santamaria and his National Civic Council, and his Saturday afternoon talks on the telly! Marks (sic) in disguise if ever I saw one."

Well we all know that poor old Paul's historic knowledge and understanding is, shall we say, abysmal. But the NCC/DLP as communists takes it to a whole new level. Just when you think he can't get wrong-er, Paul gets wrong-er.

Just to elucidate - the raison d'être of the NCC was to fight communist influence in the union movement and therefore in the ALP. That is, they were anti-communist.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 3 June 2023 9:37:35 AM
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Graham wrote:"If he wanted to promote reconciliation and national unity Albanese could put forward a simple proposal for constitutional recognition in the preamble, and legislate the Voice as an ATSIC 2.0. We'd grumble about the latter, but somewhere around 90 per cent of us would vote for the first."

Precisely. That they won't do this is evidence, if more evidence were required, of the ulterior motives in this push. After all, if the referendum passes then the parliament will still need to legislate to constitute the so-called voice. So why not just legislate it now and leave it at that.

I can appreciate that the carpet-baggers don't want a repeat of ATSIC whereby their corruption would close the whole enterprise down. Irrespective of how inept it became it'd be constitutionally protected. But it remains at the mercy of parliament into the future so the protection is ephemeral.

So a constitutional change is window-dressing. Thus one has to wonder at the motives and its quite possible that mere electoral advantage is at the top of the list. Quite how that would play out if the referendum goes down is anyone's guess.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 3 June 2023 9:47:30 AM
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mhaze,

Considering Canem Malum incessantly bangs on about the reds under the beds, those "communist" in 90% of his posts, in his last posting he refers to "Labor party communists". I don't need a history lesson, I am well versed in the antics of both the D.L.P and Bob Santa. Are you not familiar with those two Pommy communists Marks and Spencer, not to be confused with the run of the mill German variety communists Marx and Engels who as a side, ran a department store in Straddlesburg. Are you clear on that?
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 3 June 2023 11:11:31 AM
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I think that's Paul's rather infantile way of conceding he was utterly wrong about the NCC/DLP/Santamaria being communist.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 3 June 2023 11:15:42 AM
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