Josephus,

I'm not going to correct all of the things that you're
wrong about. I don't have the time nor the interest.
Nor do I believe it will make any difference to your
mindset. So I'll leave it to just this few:

1) You called me a Marxist revisionist. I'm not a supporter
of the political and economic theories of Karl Marx. And I am
not familiar with the term you're using. Do you even know what
a Marxist revisionist is? I certainly don't!

2) Children born in Australia with a birth certificate
issued in Australia are NOT automatically Australian citizens
or Australian permanent residents. To be an Australian
citizen - at least one parent must be an Australian citizen
or permanent resident of Australia at the time of the child's
birth.

3) Like the citizens of all the countries composing the
British Commonwealth Australians remained British subjects
but from the Australia Act 1949 - were recognized also as
citizens of their own countries. Our head of state is the
British monarch. We have a Governor-General who is their
representative in this country. Our Members of Parliament
are required to take an Oath of allegiance to the British
monarch, and our flag has the Union Jack on it. Also check
our constitution - there's more references there to our
links with the UK.

I would appreciate it if you did not make assumptions
about me or try to put your words into my mouth.
You need to read what I did say not your interpretation of it.
And don't speak on my behalf. You're not qualified to do that.

Hi Maverick,

Thank you for your opinions regarding our Indigenous people.
However, you did leave out a few facts - like their loss of land,
culture, and homelands, the forced removal of their children,
the denial of citizenship rights, the random shootings and
massacres that occurred on men, women, and children, the
diseases and the epidemic devastations of their populations,
just to mention a few of the effects that white settlement had
on them.

But thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Hi Foxy,

Don't be upset, its not everyday you get called a "Marxist revisionist", he may have meant Marxist revolutionary, probably has a problem typing whilst wearing his bed sheet. That's an honour coming from the Imperial Wizard of the Australian chapter of the KKK, well I believe Proud Boy Jose' holds that exalted title, if he don't, he should. Besides, I'm the only Marxist in the village (Little Britain).

BTW; who is your favourite Marx brother, personally I like Groucho. I'm also into the works of Lennon, I just love his music. As a young "revolutionary" I played this song many times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGLGzRXY5Bw

Foxy, we Australians do not come under a British monarch, The Monarch was queen of Australia now Charles King of Australia. I know you cannot understand the difference and wish Australia to become a tinpot Republic as does Paul. At the time of the Australia Act 1949 all born in Australia became Australian citizens including all aboriginals. Those not born in Australia had to apply from that date and were recognized on the anniversary of the 26th of January. The aboriginals were included as citizens from that date. The 26th of January had nothing to do with Captain Cook, the first fleet entering Botany Bay and the settlement of convicts.

You want to change the day because you believe aboriginals suffered because of what happened on the 26th of January. Nonsense, You are a history revisionist which is what Marxist do, to deceive the people.

Proud Boy Jose'

If you can't see how divisive 26th January is, then your are at best ignorant, worse still an ardent racists, what's it to be. You and those like you minimise the impact of white settlement on Aboriginal people.

"You (Foxy and Paul) want to change the day because you believe aboriginals suffered because of what happened on the 26th of January. Nonsense"

Its not simply a belief, its a well established fact. 30,000 Aboriginal people perished directly during the 100 years of Frontier Wars, with an estimated 100,000 additional deaths from disease and dispossession. If you choose to ignore the reality then that's you, If anyone is a revisionist its YOU.

Josephus,

You need to take a look at 117 of the Constitution -
"subject of the Queen," and "people of the Commonwealth"
used in s24. Then there's also the Oaths of Allegiance
that our MPs have to take before holding their offices.

There's so much information out there regarding our ties
with Britain. What you choose to believe I have no control
over. I am not a history revisionist. I am not a historian.
I am a researcher - and I merely present my findings.
And that goes for the histories of our Indigenous peoples
as well. Kindly stop with personal labelling. It makes
you look less credible.

As for changing the date? well lets see- the 26th of January
commemorates the establishment of the first settlement in
the colony of NSW. This is not the same as Australia.
It is a day that reflects a day of great tragedy for the
Aboriginal people of Australia.

I see no harm in changing the date if it will promote good
will.

Holding onto January 26th is to only celebrate one part of
our history and that being one of our darkest periods.
A period that historically we are told is a period of slave
labour, oppression, and imperial social strata continuation.

The Australia of today is NOT white, western, nor Aboriginal,
nor immigrant. Our nation is a modern nation made up of ALL
ethnicities you can imagine.

The 26th January as Australia Day does NOT define Australia
today!

foxy says, "The 26th January as Australia Day does NOT define Australia today!" Ask all those who became Citizens of Australia on the 26th of January since 1949 if they define themselves as Australians? This includes all aboriginals born in Australia before 1949. You do not like how we define Australians and want to divide our society. The Settlement of Arthur Philip happened on the 18th January 1788 not the 26th. There was no invasion as you and Paul try to imply.