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The dark side of The Voice : Comments

By Murray Hunter, published 23/1/2023

Without arguing the actual merits of The Voice, there is a dark side. These 'dark' issues would be 'collateral' to the existence of The Voice, and must be given due consideration.

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BAD News for your YES Vote Steelerectum

Poor Albo's Getting Desperate and for good reason. Lidia Thorpe’s position could see the Greens oppose the Voice referendum, effectively lining up alongside Liberal and Nationals opponents.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jan/25/my-door-is-open-anthony-albanese-challenges-political-foes-to-contribute-to-voice-legislation

"PM’s call comes as Greens face party split on issue and Liberals signal they will oppose the proposal"

"Greens senator Lidia Thorpe signalled she could break ranks and vote against legislation enacting the [Voice] advisory body unless Labor provided “guarantees” that First Nations sovereignty would not be not ceded, the prime minister made a public appeal for parliamentarians to prioritise the national interest.

After a Greens party room meeting on [January 25th, 2023], Thorpe signalled she could break ranks if her party locked in. “Regardless of the final party room position, I have informed party room I will not support the legislation for voice to parliament unless I am satisfied that First Nations sovereignty is not ceded.”

She added: “It would take a lot for me to change my personal and long-held view that I don’t think First Nations justice will come from being written into the coloniser’s constitution.”

AND HERE'S THE KICKER STEELE

It opens the possibility that the Greens will be split on the final vote...Guardian Australia understands numerous Greens members had privately expressed concerns that Thorpe’s position could see the party oppose the referendum, and effectively line up alongside Liberal and Nationals opponents."
Posted by Maverick, Thursday, 26 January 2023 8:56:53 AM
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Listen to the Voice at the Melbourne Rally, this is the people Albo bows to as representing aboriginal culture.
/www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/journalists-refuse-to-report-the-reality-of-australia-s-toxic-race-industry-andrew-bolt/ar-AA16SZMK?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=14bba3d2e2504b7c99bf6ebb8f893dcb
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 7:19:40 AM
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These are the intentions of the aboriginal WAR protesters in Melbourne, declaring war on the "white F@ dogs".

http://www.facebook.com/WARcollective

Paul and Foxy support the Greens and left-wing Labor radicals and their voice.
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 7:32:38 AM
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From reports on the manifesto of WAR. Warriors of Aboriginal Resistance.

On January 26 a large group of protesters gathered on the steps of the nation's parliamentary buildings to mourn the continents colonization by whites. There were several protests in Melbourne but one of the rowdiest came from the Warriors of Aboriginal Resistance, or WAR for short.

Launched before the G20 summit last November, WAR is a coalition of "young Aboriginal people committed to the cause of decolonization and Aboriginal Nationalism," as stated in its manifesto. Their #Genocidal20 protests last year saw 5,000 people marching through the streets of Brisbane before burning half a dozen Australian flags. We caught up with two of their members yesterday to ask about their provocative approach.

MERIKI PROTESTS OUTSIDE MELBOURNE TOWN HALL

_Meriki Onus,27, of the _Gunditjmara and Gunnai_ tribes is a co-founder of WAR._

VICE: WAR is a powerful name. Can you tell me why you chose it? Meriki: It's no accident. We are Warriors of Aboriginal Resistance. Without resistance the white man succeeds in taking our land and country so our purpose is not to attack but defend and protect. We want to revive the warrior spirit in our people by facilitating a culture of resistance.

Can you explain how the group came about?
My grandmother alerted me to the amazing work that my co-founders were doing up north, primarily in Queensland. We got in touch, bonded, and WAR was born. Then we traveled to Canada together last August where we met like-minded groups. It was so inspiring that we came home and WAR launched before the G20 summit.

Something I'm wondering is how WAR is different from other activist groups. After all, this isn't a brand new movement.
Yes but Australian militant Aboriginal activism has been dormant since the 70s. The 1990s were dire in terms of organizations for and by black Australians. So we're here to change that. And unlike other groups we're not here to dance with other existing enslaving power structures. We are young and ready to fight for everything our ancestors had taken from them.
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 7:48:44 AM
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Okay so what does fighting look like? What is WAR's mission?
Decolonization. We want to inform our people and inspire them, particularly our youth, to take action in the anti-colonial struggle, because that's the only way. Decolonization encompasses all aspects of life. It's the food you eat, it's the things you buy. Food and health are high on our agenda, but we're also helping our own communities to learn their languages, their dances, the traditions. We want people to study and be informed of their true history.

How do you feel about indigenous leaders who cooperate with our government?
I don't think it's helpful, but I'm not interested in naming names because we share a solidarity as Aboriginal Australians. I think these persons tend to be used as puppets by the white man. You know nothing really changes except they can say, Look we have this black person at the table, oh look how progressive we are .

There are lots of Australian flags around us. How do you feel when you see that flag?
It's extremely painful. The range of emotions is difficult to express when I see these smiling faces waving at that flag on this day. Today my people feel as though we're at a funeral. I can't understand the celebration. It will always be Invasion Day: the day we adopted an imported Western cultural norm that's not right for Australia.
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 7:54:38 AM
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Albo wants you to think the referendum on the Voice to Parliament is a minor change to the Constitution. They want Australians believing that it's a small gesture to make our Indigenous brothers and sisters feel more included.

The Voice is a trojan horse.

The activists pushing for the Voice won’t tell you this, but Victoria has a version of it already legislated.
And right now, Melbourne’s mini-voice is demanding a “Black Parliament” – their words, not ours.
In 2019, Dan Andrews set up what became known as the First Peoples’ Assembly.
There to “represent Traditional Owners of Country and Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples in Victoria”, it has an “Elders’ Voice”, its own constitution, runs its own Indigenous-only elections and meets in the Victorian Parliament.

Its priority is to negotiate a “treaty” with the Victorian Government.
Using $65 million of Victorian taxpayers’ money, it’s pushing changes to Victoria’s democracy that will see power shift away from ordinary Victorian voters.
Victoria’s “voice” is open about the fact that “nothing is off the table, so we need to think big and push hard.”1
There is no exaggeration here.
These are some of the “First Peoples’ Assembly” specific goals for the treaty2:
Establishing a permanent representative body with meaningful decision-making powers – a “Black Parliament” of sorts.
Having a number of seats in the Victorian Parliament that members of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander community vote for.
First Peoples oversight of the Victorian Government and public service for the benefit of First Peoples.
And the Andrews Government is backing them, saying in the announcement of the Treaty Framework3:
Treaty is a significant step towards transferring power and resources to First Peoples…

The Voice is not just about including our Indigenous brothers and sisters and giving them a say.
It’s about money and power, and changing our Constitution forever.
…and Albo is pretending it’s not a big deal.
The Voice to Parliament will divide us by race, it will threaten our democracy and – by looking at Melbourne’s mini-voice – we’re only just starting to see the real costs. - copied
Posted by Josephus, Friday, 3 February 2023 4:52:29 PM
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