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Not green at all : Comments

By Viv Forbes, published 15/11/2022

Already there is a petition circulating in Australia calling for ugly destructive power lines to be put underground to save farms, forests, wildlife and scenery.

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The talk is of 10,000 to 40,000 km of new power lines to usher in the 'clean energy revolution'. If you put a small nuclear reactor at a former coal station use the existing power lines not to mention skilled employees i.e. no new power lines. The above ground pylon mounted lines might cost $1m per kilometre, underground several times that. Then there may be restrictions on farming activity and pipe laying. Ditto for underwater cable which may have to ban trawling in the area.

Hyper-connection won't entirely solve the intermittency problem of renewables. Windless or cloudy region B may look to region A to send them power, but A may want it for themselves. Perhaps all regions should have double the number of windmills and solar panels. Combined with the new power lines it will alter the appearance of the countryside. We'll end up paying double, both cash and loss of visual amenity.
Posted by Taswegian, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 6:36:25 AM
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The countryside is certainly being ruined by the abominable windmills and glittery solar panels; the latter are being bulldozed in Germany so that the coal under them can be accessed.

Wind turbines are the single-use plastic bags of the renewables industry. The only reason we donít talk about how awful they are more often is because their reputation is protected by an axis of social media, political egos, and billionaire investors.

Two million of the things will be ripped out and put into landfill every year.

Solar panels will also be a nuisance, not worth recycling for the $8.15s worth of reusable material in them.

Just wait until 28,000 kms of ugly pylons and cables ruin the beautiful NSW countryside and take productive land off farmers.

All this craziness to make a few rich people richer.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 7:38:47 AM
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Quite an appropriate post, for Eight Billion Day.

The UN invented this "transition to Net Zero" guff, to distract from the African population bomb. "Net Zero" suits Albanese too. A virtue-signalling distraction, from his own massive population-growth program.

Mugged by Russian reality, Germany is razing a wind-farm, for a lignite coal-mine. Meanwhile, Queensland's razing virgin bush, for wind-farms
Posted by Steve S, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 8:05:58 AM
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Right. It is "Not Green At All". It is "a failure of concept, buoyed by trillions of dollars in public money and the artificial destruction of its market competitors", according to one commentator.

And what could have been the saviour from Green lunacy, the Liberal Party, has turned out to be "gutless, spineless and soulless"; just like all Australian politicians these days, more interested in shaking all the right hands at the UN than they are in taking care of Australia
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 9:39:24 AM
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Agree with most of this, Viv.

Bird chopping wind turbines need to turn for thirty years just to offset the carbon created in their manufacture.

Solar voltaic comes with, before and after mountains of toxic waste and wild fish stocks heavily contaminated with mercury and other toxic metals. Even then solar voltaic has a useful optimal commercial life of just 25 years or less.

Back them with batteries and or pumped hydro and any worthwhile cost benefit analysis, will ensure all manufacture, value adding food production and processing heads with alacrity, offshore!

If one wants truly green energy that doesn't come with a failed state, banana republic status.

There's only one candidate and that is MSR thorium, connected to clingwrap thin road underlays of the superconductor, graphene. Which is 200 times stronger than steel!

SMR MSRs can be sited where we now place transformer stations and connect same to microgrids to eliminate most of the transmission and distribution losses which together make a combined total of 75% currently. And the mug consumer pays for those losses in the energy bill.

Electric cars would also make sense and cost dramatically less to charge with such a (adults in the room in charge) system.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 15 November 2022 10:27:04 AM
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Why do these looney tune, imbecilic stupidity personified, get these taxpayer funded, economy killing energy policies on the table?

Because where are shackled with democracy destroying preferential voting coupled to dirty deals done in the dead of night preference swaps with the devil.

If preferences were once again optional Labor would govern indefinitely. Make one wonder why labor doesn't use legislation or regulation to make the above suggestion a reality.

No adults in the room perhaps or a case where the inmates have taken over and are now running the asylum.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 15 November 2022 10:44:50 AM
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