The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Will the burning of the flag of Australia help or hinder the passing of the Voice referendum? > Comments

Will the burning of the flag of Australia help or hinder the passing of the Voice referendum? : Comments

By Everald Compton, published 28/9/2022

The blunt fact is that if the Voice Referendum is defeated, the issue will not ever go away. It will remain as a festering sore of our national life forever.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. Page 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. All
The thing that gets right up my nose in this whole debate is this common, lazy and easy excuse that "it all happened long ago and I can't be held responsible for what my forefathers did."

What a load of bollocks.

I was alive when indigenous people weren't even counted or regarded as human. I was alive when little Johnny Howard sent the army in to communities. I'm not so old as to be 'ancient history'. So please, don't expect me to give your opinion any value (and you know who you are) when you blatantly choose to be so willfully ignorant.
Posted by Aries54, Monday, 3 October 2022 11:04:19 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
shadowminister,

You are just reinforcing my point. Where there is doubt about someone's Jewishness or Aboriginality then the genetic means that are open to validating someone's Jewishness isn't open to an Australian Aborigine who in your eyes doesn't qualify because they are '1/32' indigenous.

As to so called domestic partnerships they aren't even recognised in the US for gods sake.

"Under Israeli law, a domestic partnership or common-law marriage is not fully equivalent to a traditional legal marriage in all respects. Therefore, under U.S. law, an Israeli domestic partnership is also not treated as fully equivalent to a traditional legal marriage. A visa applicant’s domestic partner, therefore, is not eligible for derivative visa status on the basis of marriage."
http://il.usembassy.gov/visas/visas-for-treaty-traders/_co-habiting/
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 3 October 2022 12:10:02 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Dear Aries54

When, exactly, were indigenous people not considered Human? When and where were the army sent into communities?
Posted by Cody, Monday, 3 October 2022 4:43:41 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
SR,

I can become Jewish if I so please by simply converting which means it is a religion, not a race. When I can simply convert to being aboriginal then you may have a point. That there is a loophole in the Jewish belief that by tracing your heritage back to the original 12 tribes of Israel you can also claim Jewishness does not make it otherwise.

A family friend of ours converted to Judaism and her children are automatically accepted as Jewish even though the father is not Jewish and the kids most likely have not a single gene traceable to the tribes of Israel.

If I had my mitochondrial DNA traced back far enough I'm sure that I would have perhaps 1/100 000 of a link to aboriginality. Should I also be able to claim this and get all the benefits?
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 2:27:30 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Dear Cody

Google it sweetheart. Then get back to me.
Posted by Aries54, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 7:21:07 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Dear Aries54,

What a response. No facts to back yourself up with?
Posted by Cody, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 9:31:47 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. Page 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy