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Questions about being 'bible based' : the Diocese of the Southern Cross : Comments

By Ray Barraclough, published 23/9/2022

So my first and, I trust, obvious observation: the particular issue of same-sex marriage was never considered within the historical context of the biblical writings.

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Sex with dogs? Well animals do what animals do. (Deliverance, oink oink?)

When folks are starving, with few if any means of financial support? Hard to say what any of us would do if stood in their shoes.

Except, (holier than thou) Dan, who would die in a ditch first!

Dan, believing the world was flat never ever made it flat! When all the available evidence says otherwise!

Only completely brainwashed idiots would believe it were flat or that lefties chose to be left-handed or than those born different from the rest did so via a choice!

And if the brainwashed from birth bigot cap fits? You'll have a nice day now y'hear!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 24 September 2022 11:15:54 AM
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ttbn,

<<My opinions on the matter [homosexuality & the Bible], for instance, are my own, not what something or someone tells me.>>

Are you serious? Is your own self the one who makes up your own values? That is relativism.

Is there Nobody greater than you to decide if murder and adultery are right or wrong?
Posted by OzSpen, Sunday, 25 September 2022 7:12:31 AM
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OzSpen

You have been squinting at the Bible too long and have lost the ability to read plain language. The 'matter' that I have my own opinions on is homosexuality, not the Bible. Like most people these days, I rarely look at the Bible, although I have three of them for when I do.

My question: "how many people actually refer to the Bible to decide what they think of homosexuality" was rhetorical - I know the answer: very few people. It is not a religious matter for most people; it is about biology and commonsense.

There is no point to you or other Christians using the Bible to convince people who don't believe in the Bible that homosexuality is wrong. They are not going to be swayed by a credo they don't believe in. And some practising Christians (including professionals) don't take any notice of what the Bible says about homosexuality either.

There really is no point in using the Bible to tell people that homosexuality is wrong.

My answer to your question? "Is there Nobody greater than you to decide if murder and adultery are right or wrong?" - l don't know. I believe in Jesus Christ and the Christian way of life; anything else, I don’t know. But, I do know that there are agnostics and out-and-out atheists who know that "murder and adultery" are wrong.

I accept and respect your reliance on the Bible; but using it to convince other people that they should behave in accordance with the word of God when it means so little or nothing to so many of them these days - including some who claim to be Christian, among the laity and even some claiming to speak for God professionally - is a waste of time.

I will stick to the facts: there are two sexes; their plumbing is different; sex is for procreation, with the pleasure of intercourse being to make sure we do procreate
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 25 September 2022 9:36:49 AM
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Dear Ttbn,

«I will stick to the facts: there are two sexes; their plumbing is different; sex is for procreation, with the pleasure of intercourse being to make sure we do procreate»

Procreation is an outdated practice: cramming more people on this planet is a bad thing, so if anyone [possibly other than Jews, should the Bible be correct about this] "fails" to procreate due to their homosexuality then this is a good thing. In practice, however, homosexuals procreate at least as much as heterosexuals.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 25 September 2022 11:05:05 AM
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The greatest and routinely ignored issue for Pacifica is fossil fueled climate change! And the only way to address that is with non-fossil fuel that we the taxpayers of Australia have to Stump up for!

The cheapest most reliable dispatchable carbon-free power is not battery backed renewables. But Nuclear waste burning MSR! We should be doing this big time given it is very safe and also reduces the half-life of toxic nuclear waste to just 300 years.

Think, we were once the third wealthiest nation on the planet and a creditor one at that. That outcome was the sole result of soviet style cheap energy.

If today's useless, Polly waffling pollies had been in charge? There would have been no snowy hydro and our power supply would have been privatized or corporatized. And the national credit card would as now, been maxed out!

Renewable power at plus 45 cents PKWH will, ensure we become a debt riddled banana republic unable to assist anyone, let alone Pacifica. And ensure we become servants in our own land to the foreign investors we sell all we can to, care of, Un Australian, government policies.

Compare that with MSR power at less than 1 cent PKWH. And if sanity prevails, is what we will have?

The only danger is the idiots in charge, who as is their want, will want to privatize or corporatize all that generations of Ozzie taxpayers have sacrificed for!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 25 September 2022 12:09:38 PM
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Our plumbing has little to do with sexual orientation but rather the four sex centres at the base of the brain or if you will the Basal ganglia, there are two for males, on for sexual attraction and one for sexual drive or function. Ditto for females who almost always share the opposite pair.

Thermal imaging allows us to see which pair are firing when stimulated. That some female plumbed females are subjected to male oriented sexual stimulation/arousal the centres that are normal in males are the ones that light up!

And at times occurs as the opposite to normal in males who have "normal" male plumbing.

Pedophiles would seem to have all four firing at times, hence the selection of prepubescent boys, who seem to embody both female and male characteristics.

In Scotland some years ago, when a convicted pedophile was before the judge for the third time for buggering boys, the judge gave him two choices. For the term of his natural life in prison. Or as a volunteering subject in a research program. Naturally he volunteered for the research.

The thermal imaging showed all four sex centres were firing. The doctors decided to burn out the female sex centres in the basal ganglia. And then monitored the subject's progress.

In about a year the subject's sexual orientation was strictly heterosexual. And later he married and fathered two boys and reportedly, has never been happier.

In Sydney some time ago a very masculine male rugby player was injured in a scrum. It was a neck injury where bone fragments entered the basal ganglia and destroyed the normal male sex centres totally. About a year later he was employed as a hairdresser and was as typically gay.

So, the so-called plumbing doesn't decide one's sexual orientation but clearly the centres in the basal ganglia and hormones.

Q. what makes a hormone
A. when you don't pay her.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 25 September 2022 12:47:46 PM
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