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Too many climate change think tanks : Comments

By Ben Beattie, published 9/9/2022

In public discourse there are those promoting the truth, and those looking to further their own agenda. This is most obvious when the topic is climate change.

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Partly agree, Ben. It's certainly true that Australia scarcely needed any more climate-change think tanks, leftish or rightish. Enough is enough. And now we have to put up with the climate preening of Pocock and the Teals.

But it is not true that TAI is "de-growth". Predictably, TAI is deliberately ignoring Australia's destructive and environmentally unsustainable mass immigration policy, and inviting us to "look over there" at United Nations net zero emissions. Just like our fake "Greens".
Posted by Steve S, Friday, 9 September 2022 8:58:08 AM
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Thank you Steve S, that says it well!
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 9 September 2022 9:26:26 AM
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Partly agree, Ben. It's certainly true that Australia scarcely needed any more climate-change think tanks, leftish or rightish. Enough is enough. And now we have to put up with the climate preening of Pocock and the Teals.

But it is not really true that TAI is "de-growth". What they are actually doing is deliberately ignoring Australia's destructive and environmentally unsustainable mass immigration policy, and inviting us to "look over there" at United Nations net zero emissions. Just like our fake "Greens".
Posted by Steve S, Friday, 9 September 2022 9:49:33 AM
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It is climate change actually and addressing that is as simple as transitioning to carbon free energy as the best course of action. And the best source of carbon free energy is MSR thorium as being the cleanest, cheapest and the safest long-term base-load dispatchable power. With power prices as low as 1 cent PKWH. Nothing else comes close not coal or the green's renewables. We are not assisted by so-called think tanks with their own or hidden agendas or conflicts of interest, i.e., investments in renewables. And all made completely redundant by MSR thorium.

See LFTR in five minutes to understand why the above is fundamental and our only sane future that has a manufacturing industry as well!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 9 September 2022 4:16:49 PM
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LITHIUM REACTORS SUCK ALAN B.

Yep, if all of Europe is sh-t scared that a Uranium nuclear reactor with all its vulnerable technical safeguards, can be blown up by the Russians in Ukraine

then we may as well dot many Thorium nuclear reactor,s with all their equally vulnerable safeguards, around Australia.

Lets forget about the tried, tested, cheaper and safer option of harnessing the Sun's nuclear fusion energy by the simple method of combining solar cells with batteries.
Posted by Maverick, Friday, 9 September 2022 8:15:58 PM
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Maverick. Lithium reactors? Clearly you haven't looked at LFTR (lithium, fluoride thorium reactor) nor have any concept of how safe they are.

A thorium reactor with lithium and fluoride (MSR) in a molten state inside said reactor cannot melt down given the contents are already molten and designed to function thus. And the sweet spot is around 700C.

Fluoride does not boil under 1400C! And as the material heats the material expands forcing the nuclei further apart and the reaction slows. As it cools the nuclei are drawn closer together thus increasing the neutron exchange and the reaction. A drain plug at the bottom has cool air blown over it and the salt solidifies in the drain plug.

So, if for any reason the power fails the blower stops blowing and the salt melts allowing the contents to drain safely into purpose-built tanks, where no reaction is possible! And means, these things can be left for months without human oversight.

Cost of power produced by MSR thorium can be as low as 1 cent PKWH! because they operate at ambient atmospheric pressure!

By comparison a conventional nuclear reactor needs a seven inches thick solid one-piece reactor vessel and a hugely expensive reinforced concrete containment building to contain the hydrogen oxygen explosion if these things crack.

Moreover, MSR burns nuclear waste which other folks pay us annual millions to take from them which in MSR is just unspent fuel, also burn weapons grade plutonium! With the half-life of nuclear waste reduced to just 300 years as the result! What battery dependent renewable does that or competes with the price!

Suggest you read a few textbooks before you open your tiny mind! "Genius"!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 10 September 2022 10:50:47 AM
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