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Stumbling surveillance: the end of the COVIDSafe app : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 16/8/2022

Australia's COVIDSafe App only identified two positive cases of infection during the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, and failed, in every sense of the term, to work.

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So we can by this evidence of waste, expect better from the new breed of pigs gathered around the trough? Is that another Ho Ho?

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 8:06:50 AM
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Ah, just Binoy again !
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 8:52:46 AM
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The app was an intrusive surveillance weapon, part of the authoritarian rule, where Australia recorded 472 deaths per million and New Zealand recorded 478 deaths per million. Both nations were outperformed by Japan, which had no lockdown and recorded only 268 deaths per million. Per capita deaths were also lower in Taiwan, 386 per million, even though they were right next door to the source and also had no lockdown.

Jobs were lost, businesses destroyed, children not educated, reasons for actions hidden, and the nation landed with a massive inflationary debt which has already become far more expensive to service.

Much of this was done under regulations and other delegated legislation made by a conflicted minister or even a bureaucrat, without any of the checks and balances considered normal even in colonial times.

Yet, there will be no Royal Commission, nobody will be held to account.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 8:54:56 AM
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And how many were saved ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 10:18:15 AM
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Ain't 20-20 hindsight a wonderful thing!? Yes, Binroy, you should be worried about the lifting of your data and what that might indeed reveal? But for most other Ozzies the top of mid issues remain the crippling cost of energy, housing and food prices that are scandalous and the fact we're saddled with a government that could address these issues, but for the idiotic idealogical imperatives (political straight jacket) that they've imposed on themselves!

I mean, seriously, thorium is less radioactive than a banana! And thorium in an MSR is safer, cleaner and cheaper than coal was before Russia invaded Ukraine!

Better we should be saddled with the world's highest energy prices going forward (renewables batteries and pumped hydro) and all manufacturing and most prossessing sent offshore than to install off the shelf, bug free, MSR thorium here and with that installation, install power prices as low as 1 cent PKWH.

And ensure we make stuff here again and do all our own prossessing! That may not suit our Chinese masters, but who give a flying french francfurt what they do and don't like.

Labor just doesn't have the balls to say no sir, thank you sir and we'll please ourselves how much we remain dependent on Chinese manufacture and (cherry picked) trade!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 16 August 2022 11:24:38 AM
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ttbn, both Taiwan's and Japan's populations, traditionally wear masks when infected with any cold and flu virus. Masks alone reduced the spread of infection by as much as 80%! And there their populations far more compliant with health orders than the (don't tell me what to do)
don't give a rats, antivax, morons down under.

The new and more contagious and virulent mutant strains are breed in the unvaccinated, I don't give a rats, cohort. We only got rid of polio and smallpox when it was mandated all had to be vaccinated! Ration cards helped as did a more compliant population before we took all those post war migrants from Europe!

If the current infection curve continues, covid will take more lives by Christmas than any other cause of death including, cardiac arrest!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 16 August 2022 11:43:51 AM
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Alan B

I disagree with you that the unvaccinated are causing the new strains
although they push this misinfo on the TV.

Top epidemiologists however have said. The new strains are being caused by vaccine escape.
The virus evolves to get around the vaccines. This makes the vaccinated more vunerable because the immunity they have, the virus can overcome.

In fact the unvaxed who have their own body's immune system may be at less risk.

These latest viruses have been very mild.Killing mostly aged people or those with other health issues.
Very few young people die or have died even,during the worse Strains
at the beginning.

It was observed at the very beginning that even the original, Covid 19 and Delta could be very mild in millions of young people who had a bit of a sniffle or scratchy throat for a day or two and were unaware they had ever had Covid.

It was the government in league with The Big Pharma owned, so called Public Health Systems that pushed out constant fear based on cases.
Cases aren't deaths or ever even show any symptoms
Posted by CHERFUL, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 3:03:02 PM
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To Binoy
Thank you for writing this article about the Covid App.

BEWARE! of this Covid Citizen Approval App,being
on the new Digital IDs they have quietly tabled in our Australian parliament to
get a vote to roll the New Govt QRscan Digital IDs out to the public.

They plan to replace our Debit and Credit Cards with these Digital IDs
to be used at the checkouts.

So you will have - 1.Your BANK ACCT access
2.and Citizen Approval App(Covid)

on your new Digital IDs
(Govt Scan QRcodes)

Covid gave governments the chance to test out these
Citizen Approval Covid Pass Apps.
Learn how to computerize them and iron out the glitches.
They are coming back to BITE us on the New Digital IDs
being able to block your access to your bank acct if you upset the government
Posted by CHERFUL, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 3:29:07 PM
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Please share with everyone you can, the very real danger
Of them using the Covid Citizen Approval App, on the new Digital IDs
they want to make us use.

A lot of people may not realise and just think the Covid Approval App on the ID, is just a harmless Health Record
but it will be computerised to take away your Green Approval and replace it with a RED non-approval for Bank Access,
if the Government wants to control you in some way.

They are moving very stealthily and quietly with this.
The media never mentioned the tabling of the new Digital IDs in the parliament

A senator called Alan Antic drew attention to the quiet tabling of
The New IDs in parliament. They know the public is wary of the
surveillance they associate with these Digital IDs but
the Citizen Approval control might be the worst thing on the new IDs
Posted by CHERFUL, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 3:46:02 PM
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A week or so ago I wore a mask to the Supermarket because I had flu-like symptoms.
One of the local conspiracy gits & antivaxers greeted me with "Gawd, you're not one of these brainwashed listening to all the bull$hit about COVID ?".
When I replied that I wore the mask so as not the spread whatever I had he just rolled his eyes & walked away.
I know him as a staunch Labor supporter !
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 5:46:13 PM
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As more and more of those involved in the failed lockdowns move on to new and more lucrative lives, the authorities can start to walk back all the covid lies.

It was clear to many from a very early stage of the covid hysteria that the lockdowns were inappropriate, uncalled-for and likely to result in severe detriment for millions. And thus it has come to pass.

In recent days the US CDC has effectively admitted that all their anti-covid policies were useless, unnecessary and should be immediately unwound.

14 day to fatten the curve became 14 months to protect the errors from the government and associated authorities.

There's talk of a royal commission into the handling of the covid hysteria. Will it be a search for the truth or an attempt to cover arses?
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 8:08:54 PM
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The COVIDSafe app was useless, battery draining crap! I deleted it long ago, and I'm amazed it's taken this long to officially abandon it!

Using Bluetooth rather than relying on GPS was a big mistake, but an even bigger mistake was only alerting people after prolonged contact. If instead they'd told everyone who had any contact to get tested, it might have been useful.
Posted by Aidan, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 8:18:49 PM
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The COVIDSafe app was useless,
Aidan,
I wouldn't say useless, just obsolete now that the jabs did what they were designed to do !
Sadly, as you et al so clearly demonstrate, the jabs did not solve the problem of ignorance & educated silliness !
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 7:43:47 AM
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Indy,
'Twas incapable of doing what it was designed to do. In my state it was effectively replaced by contact tracing QR codes long before the vaccines were available.
And of course the vaccines didn't work as well as hoped either.
Posted by Aidan, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 11:37:14 AM
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Aidan,

If you assume it was meant to do what it was advertised to do, then, yes, it was a monumental and costly failure - aka a government run programme.

But if you assume that it was meant to be just a placebo for the covid hysterics, then it was spectacularly successful.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 1:43:46 PM
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And of course the vaccines didn't work as well as hoped either.
Aidan,
What makes you think that ? Just because the results aren't 100% is no indication that the vaccines & the masks didn't work ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 10:23:46 PM
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Pushing the Covid vaccines gave them the excuse to hand out the Covid
Citizen Approval Apps, so they could test them and iron out any problems with them.

The App was always planned to use on the New Digital IDs they have tabled in Parliament at the moment.
So they can block your Access to your Bank Accts if you don't comply with government demands or speak out against the Govt
Posted by CHERFUL, Thursday, 18 August 2022 10:47:19 PM
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