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Mission accomplished? Labor and the climate wars : Comments

By Tristan Prasser, published 12/8/2022

The Prime Minister is declaring the 'Climate Wars' over. But are they?

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How the 43% will be achieved is as clear as how the Voice would operate. It is a good example of 'fools rushing in'. And the Leftist media just announces one hare-brained scheme after the other, as though everything is done and dusted - with never a word about other countries failing to reach any of their ridiculous targets.

And, people like Helen Thompson and Vaclav Smil are suppressed here in the People's Republic of Australia, just like anyone else who goes against the climate orthodoxy.

"Like in other parts of the world, much of this resistance ….". What resistance? Expecting resistance from Australians these days is super dooper optimistic. As is anything "obvious" by or from the " …. Coalition, especially the Nationals…" who are cactus, merely faint copies of the Socialists.

There has never been a "climate war". There has never been any real resistance to the Marxist assault on our economy and our way of life.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 12 August 2022 9:36:23 AM
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Climate wars over!? Not by a long shot, but particularly when morons/simpletons decide we achieve same with cuts in living standards!

Only true if the nuclear option (MSR thorium) is not on the table! But with it on the table, a vastly improved, unlimited energy, rich standard of (net zero) carbon free living! See LFTR in five minutes.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 12 August 2022 11:43:02 AM
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We need one of our governments, preferably NSW to rush around and get
quotes and declarations of interest from Rolls Royce on the modular
nuclear power units they are building for the UK Govt.
If they do not move soon, the queue will be beyond this century.

Everything I have not heard about this Net Zero projects indicates
that the people driving this are simply STUPID !
Even though they demonstrate, not even simple engineering knowledge,
they do not even have the nouse to take advise.
These are the people who cheered and laughed when those power stations
were blown up.
Not for a minute did they think, err perhaps we should mothball them.
Just in case we end up needing hem.

THEY REALLY ARE THAT STUPID !
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 12 August 2022 10:52:05 PM
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From what I gather renewable energy proponents have little understanding of using intermittent, erratic, low capacity factor power generation to power the grid, and were nuclear power discussed I think there would be massive opposition.

As Germany and South Australia demonstrate, an anti-nuclear, pro-erratic energy ideology are far less effective reducers of CO2 emissions than nuclear power.

https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/Chinese-molten-salt-reactor-cleared-for-start-up
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 13 August 2022 6:59:19 AM
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Just because we have rare earths needed in cell phones, wind towers and electric vehicles, doesn't not mean we can manufacture or process any of the above here.

Elbow got elected on a promise to manufacture more stuff here. Lithium batteries in particular! So we can use the same to back up solar and intermittent wind? And with that backup which includes pumped hydro, produce the world's most expensive energy. And a manufacturing sector forced by energy costs, offshore!

All because labor doesn't have the wit or the will to accept the only way we can save our manufacturing sector is with nuclear energy we develop, own and control ourselves! Instead we get a say on an indigenous voice to government as if that was the top priority

Stuff foreign investors and their tax avoiding, price gouging, profit repatriating model.

We should preference local co-ops we facilitate and fund to keep costs to the minimum and local competition for your energy dollar, to the maximum!

And that starts with the rollout of our own new Ozzie bank that can then fund, massive drought proofing water projects, rapid rail and MSR nuclear power projects to mention the most obvious and urgent! We should make life saving medication here, an also urgent reality. And also not possible with current (world's costliest) energy paradigm going forward!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 13 August 2022 11:23:51 AM
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Alan,

Labor has pulled up the drawbridge on the nuclear power dialogue. Too expensive, too polluting, too dangerous, and too slow to build apparently. Never mind the reality that 100% renewables will cost many times the price (if it is possible to do at all) and have less than a third the service life of nuclear power. The idiocy of the erratic energy zealots leaves me with little confidence in our economic future.

Hopefully the experimental Thorium msr built by the Chinese in under three years will be a success. Testing will take about eight years.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 13 August 2022 11:51:24 AM
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