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Zero net emissions = zero net energy : Comments

By Geoff Carmody, published 10/8/2022

Inconvenient truths are rife here. Energy, from any source, fuels every bit of supply. Neither energy nor supply are 'free'.

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Hi Roses1, interesting post.

Spoken like a true gravy train rider, profiteer in the global warming scam.

Geoff Carmody has one thing very wrong, we have over double the trees here at white settlement, & increasing quickly according to NASA satellite scans. It is already too expensive to maintain improved pasture in many areas of Oz. Much of south east Queensland, previously improved for grazing is returning to bush, as it is too expensive to maintain it.

This is nasty bush. Not the open woodland that the first explorers found, product of the aboriginals & their fire stick hunting methods, but thick scrub, useless to man or native beast. I now have a resident mob of kangaroos on my property, where none existed 30 years ago. They are here as the 10,000 acre property across the river, previously good improved grazing country is now mostly junk thicket of bush, hard even for kangaroos to penetrate, & with little grass or suitable herbage to feed them.

The owner recently told me he is giving up. His kids are too smart to wanting a farming life, & the rapidly encroaching tree change retirees bitch like hell about smoke if he runs a winter fire through a paddock to reduce the scrub & the big fire risk. The developers are circling, & soon I will probably have another 50,000 neighbors.

Time to go west young man, as the saying goes, me thinks.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 1:25:22 PM
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the results of their ideology and stupidity occur some time in the future.
ttbn,
Just as we're copping Whitlam & Co's results lately !
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 8:08:58 PM
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Hasbeen. Try goats, camels and deer if you want tock reduce woody weed rubbish. As well as reduce fuel load all year round! Once you've had venison back stake, you'll never eat beef again.
Cheers, Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 10 August 2022 11:40:01 PM
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Alan B,
I go along with that ! Camels can do a better job than our bureaudroids & academic environmental experts ! Rusa, softened with a good hardwood mallet & barbecued is great tasting.
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 11 August 2022 7:28:54 AM
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Unless you want to be a 24/7 goat herder Alan, goats are just too hard to manage.

A mate of mine wanted to run organic vegetable farming with angora goats on his 400 acre property. While he was jumping through all the hurdles to achieve organic status he developed his goat flock. They were a nightmare.

They had to be locked up in very secure roofed enclosures at night to protect them from wild dog attack, & keeping them in during the day was very difficult. He started with dog wire fences, buried 6" deep, but they dug that out, lay on their side & wriggled out under the wire. At least they left some wool behind on the wire.

He then ran 4 strand of electric fencing from near ground to near fence height. He had to buy a special attachment for his slasher to keep the grass short, or it & weeds from shorting the lower strand out. This worked until they had grown good fleeces, which insulated them, allowing them to wriggle out again under it all.

Another mate bought 3 sheep to mow the grass in his 5 acre house paddock, where all his farming implements were stored in rows. Worked, not a weed to be seen, & everything sitting in a very short lawn. The only problem was his wife who complained she did not have a flower or shrub left, all eaten out. Even his mango trees were eaten off to the height a sheep could reach standing on it's hind legs.

I have seen reports of goats working well if guarded by shepherds, but I'll give it a miss thanks. My 20 odd bunch of kangaroos can be a nuisance, breaking fences, particularly electric ones, but they are keeping some rubbish down with no management problems.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 11 August 2022 2:33:55 PM
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Interesting relationship being made between NZE and population?

Australians and the Anglosphere need to get over their ZPG opinions on population growth and supposed negatives, propagated by NGOs and influencers linked to 'Tanton Network'. Latter is deceased white nationalist John 'passive eugenics' Tanton who was with Paul 'Population Bomb' Ehrlich at the fossil fueled Rockefeller Bros. & Ford Foundations' ZPG late '70s, making 'immigration' an issue.

In fact while the UNPD constantly revises its forecasts downwards most credible demographers see peak mid century then decline; the latter is more difficult to manage than growth i.e. decline in working age cohort but more retirees/pensioners, impact on budgets and workforce.

Provided transition away from carbon/fossil fuels continues, population does not need 'control'.
Posted by Andras Smith, Monday, 15 August 2022 9:46:40 AM
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