I can't see what the issue is! Covid 19 often comes with lung infections/inflamation.

This author obviously has no medical expertise, and tries to question those with medical expertise with numbers and assumptions!, Covid 19 has killed more folk across the globe than two world wars. But this miserable excuse for a human being could give a rats!

He hasn't made a cogent case, but has highlighted his contempt for the elderly!

The last years, months, weeks, are the most precious as they are so limited and even if the stats say you've only got weeks. So what, those few weeks could be the most precious weeks of ones last years!

Moreover, if people were cared for in their homes by folk with time, the average age might increase quite substantially! Given the stats quoted were all in nursing homes?
Alan B.

Correction. could give a rats should read as couldn't give a rats.
Alan B.

More fearful news from the war front.

Man is a funny creature..And then there are statistics.

But truly, as there are medical curiosities, so there are genealogical curiosities:

*…A proof that a man may be his own Grandfather:

This was actually the case with a boy at a school in Norwich

There was a widow and her daughter-in-law, and a man and his son. The widow married the son, and the daughter the old man; the widow was, therefore, mother to her husband's father, consequently grandmother to her own husband. They had a son, to whom she was great-grandmother; now, as the son of a great-grandmother must be either a grandfather or great-uncle, this boy was therefore his own grandfather.…*

Life is a crazy journey!

Dan

The biggest lie was the one about the Morrison government 'saving 40,000 lives' with its draconian, hugely expensive, freedom-denying brutality. Right out of the Communist China playbook. And, of course, there was the Opposition, that didn’t oppose when it should have.

The stuff up was so massive, that the political class will do all it can to block a Royal Commission. And, they will get away with it because the Australian population is so pathetically easy to suppress.

Damn I'm getting sick of this line being trotted out:

"The median age of those who died "from COVID-19" was 83.8 years (82.3 years for males and 86.0 years for females). It is interesting to remember that the median life-expectancy in Australia in the 2018 to 2020 Life Tables is 81.2 years for males and 85.3 years for females. The median age of death of those people whose deaths were coded as "due to COVID-19" was higher than their predicted life expectancy, according to the 2018 to 2020 Life tables."

Not only are the vast bulk of over 80s living meaningful and largely healthy lives in this country they are often the beloved parents, or grand parents, or indeed great grandparents of loving families.

Even then the death toll below 80 is still over 25% of total Covid deaths.

This is a eugenics style perspective from a person who doesn't believe masks make a difference in preventing the spread of Covid.

Covid is a world wide scam! In Victoria it has allowed sleazy nazi politicians and their fellow travelers to gas, bash and shoot people. Destroy all small business and grow big business hugely. Soon everyone will be dying of Covid according to the statistics, Until the new disease is invented.
You sheep may be happy now but wait till you suffer what is in store for you.
I do not believe we will get a proper review for years if at all unless Trump is again successful.

S.R. hear, hear and well said! You can see from the comments that as Forest Gump noted, stupid does as stupid is. With the thickest swearing the sun shines out of Trumps fundamental. Or that some sleazy Nazis invented covid to shut down business and such.

Interestingly, most of that latter failed to note that the economy grew by a substantial amount with the borders closed! And consequently unemployment as low as it has been for decades.

If there are lessons? They are, we need to be far more independent and make more here at home and get a divorce from foreign energy and foreign capital, keep our profits here to make every dollar do the work of seven in our economy. And need to decentralize ASAP!

Unfortunately for Oz the aforementioned stupidity personified, don't understand economics and are completely clueless on matters medical and they are the ones who decide elections! And think it's all about them and just don't give a rats for anyone but number one!

Moan, whine and whinge like there's no tomorrow! To be sure the moaning and whining drug dealers and the addicts do it tough during shutdowns! Even so, they get little sympathy from me!
Cheers, Alan B.

"...from a person who doesn't believe masks make a difference in preventing the spread of Covid"

Its not a question of 'belief'. Its a question of looking at the data and the science which shows that masks were effectively useless.

Dear mhaze,

Please tell that to my sister who works on the front line swabbing literally thousands of citizens for Covid 5 days a week for the last year, a relatively high percentage who have the disease, but her and her other team members have yet to contract the disease.

Does she just have a magic forcefield protecting them?

S.R. Sir Richard Bramston tells a story where he invited a highly placed flat earth official to a ride in one of his low orbit space craft. The official accepted and spent the ride glued to a porthole as a round globe unfolded underneath.

Upon landing, Sir Richard inquired, so, what do you think now? Whereupon, the official replied, the graphics were very lifelike as were the superb special effects.

Obviously masks provided protection from aerosol spread Covid. And that your Sister and team were protected by masks falls on ears as deaf as the aforementioned flat earther. For whom no about of irrefutable proof will change the mind, as they rationalize away such proof!

You waste your time trying to convince these bonehead morons!
Alan B.

Alan B, I live in Victoria where Andrews inflicted masks and lock downs as did WA. The covid was around then but now it is supposedly everywhere and people catch it two and three times? 300 daily cases to thousands daily yet life goes on without any discernable difference?
Now ask yourself previous viruses have never done this? Previous vaccines have stopped the spread but this one is different, how?
This is just a fear that you and your mates have swallowed hook line and sinker by filthy corrupt politicians!
SR and his mythical heroic sister? Sounds like the worst sort of Stalinist propaganda, does he have a poster of her lol. The brave health worker saving the Kulaks lol! You could not make this nonsense up.

How strange that you should make this comment Alan B. You obviously didn't read that the author, James McKeon is a thoracic physician and a medico-legal expert.
No-one would know more about lungs and infections and in fact Covid...he has studied it for two years, and thank God to read that he presents a sane view point. Bravo James!
Joan Butt

Yes, quite a laugh Joan. The author is an expert, but the blowhards on the forum, many of whom say we should believe all experts, denigrate him.

But we live by John Stuart Mills dictum here that even “If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.”

Intriguingly, some of the wrong on this forum want to silence mankind, so the quote is even a little prophetic.

What the data, rather than the propaganda, shows is that, in ideal controlled conditions, masks can be shown to be of value. Using the highest quality masks, in conditions where they are discarded and renewed every 3 hours, are not touched or adjusted once they are put on and are fitted such that there are no gaps anywhere around the mask (a surgeon friend told me that if your mask doesn't leave creases on your face because it is so tight, then it is useless) - if all of theses conditions are met, then and only then do masks work well.

But in the real world, where people wear the same mask for a full day or more, use cheaper low quality masks, regularly touch it to adjust it to make it more comfortable, adjust it to take a bite or a drink, and don't have it tight fitting all around their face (good luck if you're bearded), then masks are either useless or indeed detrimental to health.

This is what the science shows. But as usual, the believe-in-science crowd only believe the science that suits. On the other hand they believe whatever their gurus tell them with slack-jawed alacrity.

Dear Graham,

You wrote:

“Intriguingly, some of the wrong on this forum want to silence mankind, so the quote is even a little prophetic.”

What pious bilge I'm afraid. This bloke with his tortured statistics and out there perspectives is happy to sing whatever tune he wants and if OLO is happy to give him a perch then fine.

But when a couple of criticisms from others has you saying he is being silenced, instead it is really you attempting to silence that criticism that any serious instance of the other.

For a nursing home to lose nearly a third of its residents within a month in Victoria and to then have this bloke effectively claim it was mainly due to pneumonia is just bonkers.

He is blithely painting a picture that Covid even for the elderly is no big deal: “Even for elderly, vulnerable people, the likelihood of dying of Coronavirus (COVID-19) is still quite low.” but that hardly reconciles with the fact that the fatality rate in NSW for those over 80 who contracted Covid was standing at 23%.

If his messaging drives complacency then it is indeed dangerous for our elderly and therefore deserves to be challenged.

If I'm "trying to silence" your criticism Steele then it is clear that you are trying to silence me, on your own criteria. But then I explicitly said you should be allowed to speak, so your criticism is bunk, and should colour how people view the rest of your post.

I'll see if the good doctor wants to answer your criticism directly, but name-calling him when he knows a lot more than you is a bit rich, given your level of non-expertise.

Dear Graham,

Some circular arguments there old chap which is probably inevitable on this topic.

To cut to the chase criticism is not in and of itself silencing. I have not said the good doctor shouldn't have a platform. But you elevated criticism to frame it as an effort to silence therefore by extension of your own argument (which I don't agree with) you were attempting to silence me.

It is a kind of hypocrisy employed by both sides and it does get a little tiring, but there is a strong case to say the hard right employ it to a greater degree than most.

Friendly Jordies did a recent piece on this which has a real ring of truth about it.

https://youtu.be/lnFblVQkigY

And now you are accusing me of calling the good doctor names. You are going to have to point out where I did such a heinous thing.

I was certainly derisive of his arguments but calling him names? Nope.

Finally I'm not contending that I know more that he does, but I do contend that many highly skilled pandemic and health experts have taken a different perspective on the data, the disease and the ethics of this and I find nothing in the article which decently challenges their take.

Perhaps it really just comes down to a values thing. I am grateful for the path the country took in saving tens of thousands of Australian lives through the pandemic. I am certainly not confident those numbers would have held if the good doctor had had his way.

SR all those nursing home deaths were due to a two bob, shifty ALP sponsored security mob literally from Kings X! They caused all the infections and deaths but you have to blame everyone but your ALP girlfriends! The Andrews judge who oversaw the total whitewash was in on the joke too!
You love dishing it out but cannot take it!

JBowyer,

You are doing it again. You keep saying Covid is way lees of an issue than the flu and that lockdowns were useless but now you are giving poor old Dan a serve for not locking down the aged care facilities.

How about you make up your mind.

SR Hopeless Danny and Bretty allowed the Covid into the Aged Care but it is always someone else's fault. Dodgy security, dodgy testing and vaccines that just don't work and ridiculous lock downs!
So much death and destruction for what? Now we are 50,000 cases everyday? Anyone who is anyone has tested positive and some are claiming having it twice? This Covid goes against all previous experience or perhaps it is the corrupt politicians milking an imaginary crisis.
Look I know you and your girlfriends are so frightened but at least leave the rest of us alone. You slide under the bed with your fellow bedwetters and leave the adults to live their lives.
Keep hiding behind your little coward's nick name but change it to big fat pussy in the interests of accuracy.