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A vision full of power for Australia : Comments

By Stuart Ballantyne, published 10/5/2022

Savannah was capable of circling the earth 14 times at 20 knots without refuelling. Nowadays a similar 14,000kW of installed power would cost around US$49 million in just fuel alone.

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With the “bitch-pack” of Neo-romanticist Heliogabalian rainbow flag independents, charging towards Canberra…no hope for nuclear anything except nuclear fusion bombs!

God save us.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 8:50:59 AM
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The Russians have an Arctic cruise ship 50 Years of Victory powered by two 171 MW reactors. My guess is that customers are backing away as is the Finnish order for a new 1200 MW power station. Shipping is thought to account for over 2.5% of global emissions. Some ports won't let cruise ships burn bunker fuel as it stinks up the port area. Logic suggests more nuclear shipping but alas the world is not logical.

Last October the British nuclear sub Astute visited Perth. AFAIK no one was harmed. Perhaps that's a sign of less fear mongering. The shipping firm Maersk proposes to run container ships on supposedly carbon neutral methanol. I'd be more worried by a methanol leak. There is no perfect power system.
Posted by Taswegian, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 10:20:56 AM
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Powering a ship with fuel that is as rare as platinum and as costly doesn't make a lot of sense. However, if that fuel was as common as lead and as cheap, you'd only needed a handful to power the same ship for several years with, walk away safe, power! You'd surely consider spending a few bucks for that outcome?

Simply put, just 8 grams of metallic thorium contains enough recoverable energy to power your house and car for a century without refueling. The cost of mining and refining a fractional 8 grams of thorium, just around $100,00. that my friends is just $1.00 a year.

And if we had it, it would kill fossil fuels and current conventional nuclear and the very reason our bought and paid for pollies refuse to consider it?

Thorium also produces the miracle cancer cure Bismuth 213. as a spin off of MSR thorium. MSR can also be retasked to burn and burn time and again, toxic nuclear waste, reducing the toxicity and reducing the half life to just 300 years!

The question the pollies need to answer, is, why not? Given it would be the safest, cleanest and cheapest power on the planet!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 10 May 2022 10:59:47 AM
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No perfect power system Tas? Well MSR thorium comes as close as one can get. Thorium delivers everything fusion promised, but never delivered.

Australia has around 40% of the world's reserves of thorium and that is enough to power Australia until the end of time!

And with a power source cheap enough to drought proof the joint/turn our arid inland into a veritable garden of Eden and a food bowl for the world. The next boom will be a food boom!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 10 May 2022 11:14:52 AM
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Here Here. The public (greenish) attitude is ridiculous.
I doubt the public attitude will change before one cold night the
families sit in the dark looking at a cold dinner !
The next morning they will demand nuclear energy before dinner tonight.
I am considering voting green this election as I think they will
crash the electrical system much sooner than the Liberals and so will
waste much less money and enable a real change to be made sooner.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 2:29:39 PM
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Bazz,

Renewable energy is already a failure in Europe, but the media in Australia don't give it much coverage.

It is very nice to read an article promoting nuclear power. I am not a member of the climate catastrophe cult, but I do see nuclear energy as environmentally advantageous and a provider of low cost energy over the long generating lives of the power stations. A big shame nuclear energy has been so unjustly vilified by the left, and perplexing as nuclear power is so much loved by their commie mates.
Posted by Fester, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 8:15:40 PM
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When we consider nuclear power driving our electricity generation, we immediately hit to wall of fear of anything atomic.
From the 1950's right through to the 1980's, the Soviet Union had been sponsoring the Campaign Against Nuclear Power/Energy protests across Australia and around the world. In Australia this was channeled through the AWU and every year we can recall these protestors marching with the Unions on Labour Day.
Always that nuclear was a short step from the MAD war in the Northern Hemisphere.
This fear was pushed at every opportunity until even the most clear headed and educated started to wonder "Maybe there's something in this danger from nuclear?" Which the media had no hesitation in pushing.
Victoria and New South Wales still prohibit the prospecting for uranium within their States. Meanwhile South Australia sits on, mines and exports several thousand tonnes of Uranium oxide ore to markets around the world every year.
With over two generations of fear mongering, it will take at least another two generations of concentrated emphasis on how the benefits can greatly outweigh the dangers.
As I see it, from media reporting and a few analysts who've been published, the great objections of too long to build, too expensive to build and too dangerous to manage the waste are all readily countered.
The cost and time factors appear to be driven almost entirely by bureaucratic oppositions where the fear of making a decision that will last for decades slows all public servants down. And a fear of litigation based purely on some member of the public being frightened by that fear that maybe, just maybe, radiation from the facility may escape.
As the French have shown, after refusing to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaties that prohibited the recovery, re-refining and reusing the exhausted fuel rods from their power nuclear reactors, it is possible and a practical and an achievable way of disarming the waste argument.
Alan B, I'd like to believe you on the superiority of your Thorium power packs, but if they are so straightforward, surely somewhere they would've advanced beyond simple research reactors?
Posted by Jay Cee Ess, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 8:38:18 PM
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Fester said "A big shame nuclear energy has been so unjustly vilified by the left, and perplexing as nuclear power is so much loved by their commie mates."

Answer- a Brooklyn Communist is the same as a Manchurian Communist.
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 1:43:33 PM
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