Bazz.VK-VHF@lists.ozlabs.org will do for a start
David

Climate change unavoidable, it's pollution we can do something about. Start with birth control & withdraw foreign aid & at the same time stop exploiting so-called third world countries so that they can upgrade to the level of their abilities. That'll curb pollution massively !

As the world warms the air conditions will run day and night on overload as will the air polluting coal-fired power stations that power them! And the extended accompanying droughts will make food and fibre shortages a harsh reality along with the usual diseases that accompany mass poverty as we descend into animals that fight for the last loaf on the supermarket shelf.

If we would avoid this senario we must invest in vastly cheaper energy not controlled by energy barons fixating over the ever upward profit curve! And that means we need to invest in new energy that they don't yet control and for mine that means MSR thorium that can also be retasked with burning nuclear waste. And produce almost costless to us, energy! And an energy type that does not come with pollution that make the folk in large Chinese cities, e.g., need to wear masks, just to be able to breathe!

Given global warming is inevitable!? We need to adapt! And that adaptation cannot include the fossil fuels that have created the pollution outcomes! So, it is electric vehicles and charged with MSR thorium power! Ditto the industrial sector!
Alan B.

Thank you, ttbn, for an accurate pointer to how we should all vote. If the number of Greens, teal independents, and other non-associated independents increases then action to curb the nasty effects of excess carbon dioxide in our atmosphere will be taken. Thank you for endorsing a thinking mans' approach to avert+++ing disatrous climate change.+++

I have been thinking that it might be better if the Greenlabour wins.
It might go this way; that government will close coal fired stations
very early and the inevitable wind drought will occur and an excess of
cold still nights followed by overcast days.

The system will have widespread blackouts and the public will be
screaming for their heads.
I think it would happen that way because they believe their own dreams.

My reasoning is the Greenlabour would be Trillions cheaper & quicker
than doing the wind & solar transmission in a controlled manner and
much more money spent on the project before the never ending cost is understood.
A short five year disaster by the greens would be better than twenty
to forty years of slow recovery and bankruptcy no credit worthiness.

Just in case those scenarios are seen to be off the planet are you
aware that your money is currently being spent to pay some businesses
to close down because we have run out of electricity ?
To be paid to cut back production may help that company but not its customers.
Does this look like good business practise ?

It looks like a pretty good way to destroy the supply chain, very quietly, before the public realise what is happening.