Ahhh well, what a mess if he turns out to ve right !
The problem is the global warming campaign has been run on declarations
that todays bushfire, cyclone, flood, drought even earth quakes
are the result of global warming.
Well surprise surprise the globe has been warming.
It started up from about 1800 and has been rising ever since on a
bumpy track. It is not really a surprise as it has all happened before.
Just like the bushfires, cyclones, floods, and droughts of previous times.
This whole cycle of rising and falling earth average temperatures has
occurred many times in a cycle between 600 and 1000 years long.
It is no secret, ask the Minoans, ask the Romans, ask the Vikings and
ask the 15th century European farmers.
We have all been there before !
Whats different this time ?
Well we started burning coal in the late 18th century and then later
started burning oil. So someone saw a connection and away went the
global warming due to co2 panic, so much so that little girls are
standing in the street bawling their eyes out because they believe their teachers.

The crux of the matter is that the earth is not as sensitive to co2
as was assumed by those that thought the rise was due to the extra CO2.
There is more to all this and it makes interesting reading.
Be brave and open the documents it won't hurt.

IT'S THE SUN STUPID !

IT'S THE SUN STUPID !
Bazz,
It's the Woke, all 4 Billion of them !

These articles are getting sillier,in style ,with each issue.

I will give them a miss from now on,methinks.

Matt Canavan is the only politician worth a pinch of poop when it comes to the absurdity of zero emissions and the 'climate emergency' hysteria scaring young children.

"Keep digging or die" should be Australia's motto. There is nothing that will replace the mining industries that maintain and increase our wealth.

If the Senator was genuine? Then he would advocate for the nuclear option as the vastly cheaper option and for keeping the energy barons from ever getting the greed driven paws off of it!

And that means three things embracing cooperative capitalism, MSR thorium and AI assisted direct marketing We've never ever needed paper shuffling, profit demanding, tax avoiding, profit repatriating middlemen. Or energy barons lining the pockets problematic pollies!

And London to a brick things will need to get a lot worse and life decending to circumstances that model the great depression before these gormless pollies embrace the required new deal! TBC.
Alan B.

We can mine thorium and rare earth minerals for ourselves as well as we can mine coal for the likes of coal miner, Peabody!

Just 8 grams of thorium enough to power your hose and car for a century! The cost of mining and refining 8 grams of thorium just $100.00 and that means the cost of powering your home and car would be $1.00 a year and that's what terrifies the likes of Peabody and Co.

It is time we decided what we will pay for our coal/lor energy, not foreign price gouging, tax avoiding, profit repatriating investors and or tame/compromised pollies!

Coal is not cheap and in high demand internationally. And we can use this to finance our transition here at home to much cheaper alternatives we still own! And embrace the cooperative capitalism of yesteryear that once made the bush comparatively wealthy and us the third wealthiest nation on the planet and a debt free creditor one at that! TBC.
Alan B.

The European situation that Matt was referring to is just a peep into
the future we will see here if the net zero is implemented.
By 2030, just 8 years away, farmers will have to reduce their herds
by 43% ! Starting now it is a 5.3% reduction each year !
What does the farmer say to the abattoir, "Sorry can't supply as before"
Then what does the abattoir say to the butcher "Sorry can't supply as before "
Then what does the butcher say to the housewife "sorry can't supply as before"

That is what it really means in food but the steel maker will say the same.
The house builder will say sorry can't finish the job can't get timber till next month.

The madmen deny this is so but they cannot explain why it is not true.
To reduce co2 less work has to be done, simple as that.
Silly thing is it has no effect on global temperature.

IT IS THE SUN STUPID !

Correction, hose and car should read house and car.
Alan B.

Not defending Canavan, but if is naive and idealistic to give much merit to either the Lib or the Lab of the LibLab net zero "promise".

The environment of May 22 is the same no matter who wins. 40% population increase by 2050, going long on logging and land clearing, species crashes, fossil fuels forever, dodgy carbon offsets, dams and fires and floods. No climate plan can make up for all that.

It really is a pity that this clown Binoy, didn't study math or physics when he was doing all that study.

If he had he would be able to see that global warming is a scam, & it is impossible for CO2 to do the things it is blamed for, even earthquakes.

Of course we have the disgusting spectacle of many academics who do have the math, & know it is a scam, keeping quiet as saying so is more than their job is worth.

With the globe now cooling, it will be interesting to see just how desperate the warming mob will get to have a new scam, before the cooling ids too obvious to ignore. Fun times ahead.

It isn't the warming that is the problem although it is contributing to what may well turn out to be the main problem. I refer to the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere which is dissolving in the oceans. In the Antarctic, the increasing acidity is causing the shells of the smallest crustacea to dissolve, thus compromising their ultimate existence. This will lead to a flow on effect right up through the food chain, resulting in a wiping out of all fauna in the southern oceans.
David

Put Labor in power and you will get Greens and climate 'independents' who will force through a bill that will have an unelected climate commission LEGALLY able to tell the elected government what to do on climate; and we won't know what it will cost us until it is too late because the Green climate goons do not know nor care what it will cost.

I wish someone with the knowledge would take up Alan B's proposals.
To my limited knowledge it should be a goer.

Hasbeen,
I don't think it is doing much cooling yet.
Kappenin et al think the peak was late 1990s but it is uncertain.
The top of the peak will be about 50 years wide. However as the cycle
is composed of multiple cycles you need Fourier analysis to work out
just when a change occurs. The problem I think is that so far there
is not enough data from previous cycles for Fourier to work.

The thing that disappoints me is that we won't be here to say I told you so !

David de Bazz,
Re the acid in the ocean here is a paragraph from a book.

Chemical fingerprints in marine sediments show that there were short
times when ocean surface waters were slightly acid but reverted quickly
to the normal state of being alkaline. The measure of ocean alkalinity
(pH) is a logarithmic measurement and if all the planets atmospheric
carbon dioxide were dissolved in the oceans they would still be alkaline.

I am no chemist so that is not my knowledge.

de Bazz, aab

Bazz, I am a chemist. The Antarctic ocean is acid enough to disssolve the CaCO3 shells of crustacea. It is happening now and will get worse.
David

Another nutjob, Prince Charles, has backed a mob of weirdos who have come up with a mask for cows to wear to stop their methane emissions. Most methane, we are now told, is burped by cows, not farted as we thought. Who said the science was settled?

Bazz, if someone in Canberran were to seriously look at what I've proposed? There would need to be rational people engaged in more than telling pork pies just to get elected! And come replete with the national interest first and foremost as the real goal!

To put it mildly, the last thing on the agenda in the minds of pollies and public servants is the national interest? And replaced by this or that special vested interest/personal interest?

Were this not so, what I've proposed would already be existing reality?

Commonsense is not common but arguably the most rare intellectual phenomena in the world? Except in Canberra where it seems to be entirely non existent?
Cheers, Alan B.

David, the next paragraph goes on to say;
If we use green activist ideology increased carbon dioxide in the air
makes the oceans more acidic. How do they explain
the fact that we have fossil shells ?
Fossil shells are made of calcium carbonate which
dissolves in acid and at the time these fossils formed, the atmospheric
carbon dioxide was far higher then it is now. Accordingly the oceans
should have been acid, shells would have dissolved and would not be present for fossilisation.

Is the explanation in the reference to logarithmic calculations ?
Further paragraph do not refer directly to acidification but to the
use by the oceanic co2 consumed by phytoplankton etc as part of the
ocean food chain.

I think there is so much doubt now in the whole global warming theory
being driven by mankind and the failure of all the scary predictions
to be non events that it is time to rethink the whole thing.

Anyway interesting David. Are you a WIA member ? are you on their
email forwarding ?

73 Bazz

Bazz.VK-VHF@lists.ozlabs.org will do for a start
David

Climate change unavoidable, it's pollution we can do something about. Start with birth control & withdraw foreign aid & at the same time stop exploiting so-called third world countries so that they can upgrade to the level of their abilities. That'll curb pollution massively !

As the world warms the air conditions will run day and night on overload as will the air polluting coal-fired power stations that power them! And the extended accompanying droughts will make food and fibre shortages a harsh reality along with the usual diseases that accompany mass poverty as we descend into animals that fight for the last loaf on the supermarket shelf.

If we would avoid this senario we must invest in vastly cheaper energy not controlled by energy barons fixating over the ever upward profit curve! And that means we need to invest in new energy that they don't yet control and for mine that means MSR thorium that can also be retasked with burning nuclear waste. And produce almost costless to us, energy! And an energy type that does not come with pollution that make the folk in large Chinese cities, e.g., need to wear masks, just to be able to breathe!

Given global warming is inevitable!? We need to adapt! And that adaptation cannot include the fossil fuels that have created the pollution outcomes! So, it is electric vehicles and charged with MSR thorium power! Ditto the industrial sector!
Alan B.

Thank you, ttbn, for an accurate pointer to how we should all vote. If the number of Greens, teal independents, and other non-associated independents increases then action to curb the nasty effects of excess carbon dioxide in our atmosphere will be taken. Thank you for endorsing a thinking mans' approach to avert+++ing disatrous climate change.+++

I have been thinking that it might be better if the Greenlabour wins.
It might go this way; that government will close coal fired stations
very early and the inevitable wind drought will occur and an excess of
cold still nights followed by overcast days.

The system will have widespread blackouts and the public will be
screaming for their heads.
I think it would happen that way because they believe their own dreams.

My reasoning is the Greenlabour would be Trillions cheaper & quicker
than doing the wind & solar transmission in a controlled manner and
much more money spent on the project before the never ending cost is understood.
A short five year disaster by the greens would be better than twenty
to forty years of slow recovery and bankruptcy no credit worthiness.

Just in case those scenarios are seen to be off the planet are you
aware that your money is currently being spent to pay some businesses
to close down because we have run out of electricity ?
To be paid to cut back production may help that company but not its customers.
Does this look like good business practise ?

It looks like a pretty good way to destroy the supply chain, very quietly, before the public realise what is happening.

It is going to happen anyway, regardless of which party is in power. The libs think Snowy 2 is going to be their salvation.
David