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War is a dying business : Comments

By Keith Suter, published 1/4/2022

Ukraine is demonstrating this on a daily basis. Russian soldiers don't know what hit them. They were told they would be welcomed as liberators.

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Dan,

Why aren't Germany and Japan a threat to the world today? I think the only thing stopping Russia being thrown out faster is hesitation from Biden and Europe in sending more weapons to Ukraine. I also think that the Russian people would have put a stop to things were their media not so heavily censored. The deaths of thousands of Russian soldiers wont be hidden for long.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 2 April 2022 12:07:24 PM
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There is no way for Russia to win a war she initiated by an unprovoked invasion. And in so doing brought the rest of an outraged free world in on the Ukrainian side!

There is no need for the U.S. to do more than provide the best military hardware she can. Other nations are providing battle hardened soldiers, ready willing and able to fight!

And should Russia prevail? It will undoubtably face years of non winnable guerilla warfare! And that's only if an already basket case, banana republic economy has any battle gas left in the tank. Any more sacrificial men to throw on the fire?

And many are deserting and those that remain have, trauma induced, low moral

China can watch and learn that this is not how one acquires new/contested territory. That the only way that can now be done is through slow but sure economic measures and abundant goodwill!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 2 April 2022 12:09:52 PM
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A few comments....
The world is overpopulated?
It could not support us all as hunter-gatherers.
We use reason to evolve plans to correct deficiencies.
We build and plant etc etc.
Reason is the unrivalled determining factor in our success.

Reason can be applied to resolve conflict as well?
Reason should always be first 'cab off the rank'.
But when reason fails, brute force might be needed?
Enter war.
War is the last, almost desperate, measure which can be tried.
A peaceful means of resolving difference is far better for all.

War can work where there is real arbitary unfairness applied by a country or regime.
Such an imbalance should be overcome, to ensure peace continues.
Good men will rise to the challenge.
These men are mentally focussed, and their cause is just.
Their strength of purpose is high.
This give them a great 'fighting' advantage.
The opposition force knows subconsciously that its actions are morally suspect.
I think this lessens its strength of purpose.

We live in times where we have great knowledge of ourselves and our planet.
Rapid and comprehensive communication allows this to be available to all persons.
We thus have a much greater understanding of how to plan for life ahead.
Surely we can use our excellent reasoning skills to avoid destructive wars?
With reason predominant, should we not be able to relegate war to a satisfyingly distant place?

A progressive society looks after ALL of those who inhabitant its territory.
It determines and applies good principles to prevent famine and poverty.
Cannot these ideals be applied to the world at large?
Should not all people in all places help those who are disadvantaged by circumstance?
Do this by giving practical help in the short term, and educating people for the longer term?
This can only be actioned at government level, as individuals will not have access to detailed information needed to make a plan.
So we should not quibble when a government provides money to help those, in other places, who are severely disadvantaged?
We should not be so mean-spirited?
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Saturday, 2 April 2022 1:56:50 PM
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<< This is not a rerun of Russia's Crimean operation in 2014, when the west led by President Obama did nothing to resist the Russian take over in Crimea and other parts of eastern Ukraine. >>

There was no takeover of Crimea to resist. The Crimean people voted overwhelmingly to rejoin Russia. They had no wish to be governed by a US-led puppet which had illegally usurped their democratically-elected government. There was no Russian takeover of any other part of Ukraine either. The Donbass region was still part of Ukraine at that time and would have remained so to this day if Ukraine had had the decency to honour the 2014 and 2015 Minsk Agreements it had signed along with Russia, Germany and France.

<< It (NATO) had been largely dormant since its victory over the USSR in 1991 … >>

It most certainly had not! Under US leadership, NATO has deliberately set about recruiting each of the former USSR nations into its ranks and has relentlessly expanded eastward and invested heavily in militarily threatening and containing Russia. If NATO truly had lain dormant since 1991, Russia would never have taken the military action it has in Ukraine.

<< The Russians are already trying to redefine what would constitute "victory" for them because they will not be able to take over the country. >>

Russia has never intended to take over Ukraine. Its plans are to destroy the military infrastructure supplied to Ukraine by the US and its neo-Nazi military. It also aims to have Ukraine declared neutral territory and as such serve as a buffer to the ever-expanding threat of NATO.

The US could easily have made peace with Russia if it had wanted to. Russia has been trying for over two decades to negotiate with the US and NATO. Its many diplomatic efforts and eminently-sensible draft treaties have been flatly rejected. The US is not interested in a peaceful settlement. Its aim is regime change in Russia and it won't rest until it's been achieved.
Posted by Bronwyn, Saturday, 2 April 2022 2:02:41 PM
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I deliberately avoided mentioning nature at work.
How a burgeoning world population must succumb to natural consequence.
Famine and disease will cut the world population down to a manageable size?
That is a war we cannot win.

And by the way....
I quote from the above by Bromwyn: 'Its plans are to destroy the military infrastructure supplied to Ukraine by the US and its neo-Nazi military.'
I comment: And you do this by decimating the civilian population?
Isn't that rather harsh and unproductive?
Do unto others etc.......
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Saturday, 2 April 2022 2:14:25 PM
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Bronwyn,

Substitute a few names, e.g. Zionists for Nazis, and your comment sounds like the paranoid propaganda of Nazi Germany or Imperialist Japan justifying their unprovoked military aggression.

What you don't see Bronwyn is that the economic failure of Russia is a result of the autocratic cleptocracy running the show in Russia, not the "Elders of Zion" type paranoid delusion invented by Noodles Putin and his psychopathic henchmen.

Oh, and aside from the brutality and war crimes, spot the difference between "Vlad's Army" and "Dad's Army". Can you? I can't.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 2 April 2022 2:25:13 PM
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