Sounds like controlled opposition ttbn- what do you think?

Alan B.

<< What did the Ukraine do that provoked The Russian attack? Nothing at all! And how would its entry into NATO or the EU do anything but curtail Putin's ambitions for more territory. >>

Putin’s military operation is confined to Ukraine and is not part of a broader expansionist ambition. Putin is not aiming to topple the current government or to occupy Ukraine. Russia is defending the people in Donetsk and Lugansk from neo-Nazi attack and very specifically for its own safety aiming to denazify and demilitarise its Ukrainian neighbour.

Russia has been trying to negotiate with US-led NATO for at least fifteen years and its diplomatic efforts have been ignored or rejected. Despite its promises to Russia in 1990 that there'd be no eastward expansion of NATO, the US has deliberately and inexorably engineered NATO's expansion eastward since 1999. It has done this with the sole purpose of threatening and containing Russia. It has no interest in the people of Ukraine. It wants Ukraine in NATO so it can patrol Russia’s south west border and advance (and almost complete) its military containment of Russia.

It’s a completely unacceptable position. Just imagine if Russia used an alliance and brought in Canada or Mexico in order to patrol US borders. Russia is perfectly within its rights to resist the threat of NATO’s military encirclement. It’s tried everything it could to resolve the situation peaceably. And has only now resorted to military action. I don’t agree with it, but like millions of others around the world, I understand what has pushed Russia to employ force.

Alan B.

<< The Crimean vote was a sham with Russian thugs at every polling station! And looking over shoulders as the people filled out their ballot papers. >>

When Khrushchev handed Crimea to Ukraine in 1954, the people of Crimea had no say in it. Sixty years later, after the 2014 coup in Ukraine, the Crimean parliament voted independently to hold a people's referendum to democratically establish the level of support for rejoining Russia. 82% of voters participated and more than 96% of those voted for reunification with Russia. The vote was open, transparent and legal. 135 independent observers from 23 countries monitored the referendum. Yes, Russian armed forces already present in Crimea did assist in enabling the vote which is perfectly fair and reasonable. That there were 'Russian thugs looking over people’s shoulders' is pure fiction. There was no forcible annexation. The people of Crimea voted freely and fairly to rejoin Russia.

<< You can claim a U.S. sponsored coup? Without providing a single shed of factual evidence! >>

There is evidence to suggest that the US was up to its neck in the 2014 coup. US government official, Victoria Nuland, stated unambiguously, 'We have invested over $5 billion to assist Ukraine’. The breakdown of this funding is deliberately opaque but it follows the same pattern of many other US-instigated coups the world over. Nuland and John McCain were photographed handing out cookies to protestors and Nuland is famously on record as stating ‘F--- the EU' in well-documented discussions about who was to be the new Ukrainian president. There's lots of other evidence implicating Obama and Biden in this coup, including documentation revealing Hunter Biden’s shady financial dealings with wealthy Ukrainians. Like many others around the world, this coup would never have occurred if it hadn't been deliberately fomented by the US government.

ttbn

I agree.
The West "led" (a poor choice of word, I know) by Biden could have ensured that no invasion would transpire by telling Vladiymir Putin that Ukraine will not join NATO.

That's it. Five words: "Ukraine will never join NATO".

The West could have got Putin to go agree with Ukraine one day MAYBE joining the EU but joining NATO would be as far as Washington and Bruxelles are concerned "a no go zone" for Kyiv.

After all this is what the West promised the Soviet Union in 1991 and for years Putin made clear that the slow but sure move towards NATO by Kyiv will never be accepted.

The West created this catastrophe and has shown itself to be shameless liars and in the face of Ukranian please for help, the West has failed in that respect too.

Given Biden could have alone averted this catastrophe, a good question is: why isn't ScoMo expelling the US ambassador?

Also, clowns in Berlin, Paris, Copenhagen etc think that removing Putin is a "great idea" as though any replacement will be better.

The same jokers thought they could sweep into Baghdad and Kabul and install democracy.

It's interesting that both Victoria Nuland and her husband Robert Kagan both have Hebrew connections. Kagan who worked for the Republican's until 2016- has Lithuanian Jewish descent. I remember Armchair Critic some time ago referring to material from George Webb and others highlighting the complex relationship that Nuland has with Hillary Clinton, The CIA, Jeff Bezos from Washington Post and Amazon, The Ukraine Euromaiden Coup, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kagan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos

Kagans a Neoconservative
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/robert-kagan-great-power-rivalries-2016-12?