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A rude awakening for America and its allies : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 7/3/2022

The question is what lesson the United States and its allies should learn from it and what measures they must now undertake.

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Enough of the "we"; it is the weak Western politicians sucking up to the Woke who have been slack. And the lamentations of another armchair expert are not going to change that. We don't need academics telling us what we already knew.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 7 March 2022 9:01:38 AM
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Poor old truth under attack again.

Without the interference of prevaricating Politicians, wars can be shortened and actually concluded.

The US with its superior economic strength and technological advantage, lost the Vietnam war entirely because of them.

Who bears the cost of war, are the people.

As long as Iíve lived, Iíve heard the cry from the same ďpeopleĒ who are the biggest losers in war, that Politicians, and their families should be obligated by force if necessary, to actually fight and die on the front line of those wars they create and prolong.

Dan.
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 7 March 2022 9:21:45 AM
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A rude awakening indeed! Only warm and comfortable fools living in a fools paradise would think otherwise.

Imagine if all that firepower now being directed at Ukraine was aimed at a practically defenseless Australia. Were most of the population lives in exposed coastal cities, jammed in like tinned sardines! In high rises almost totally dependent on a continuous and hugely exposed, coal-fired power supply to function! And only two weeks of fuel supply?

Moreover, the various political parties have used the divide and rule paradigm to win power, to the point were there is a ready made extreme right wing, fifth column, anti-Australian cohort, who to a generic man believe the sun shines out of Putin's rear end, and are ready, willing and able, to help our potential adverseries?

Doing trade deals with China just finances their military expansion, just as our reliance on fossil fuels funded Mr Putin's military adventures in the Ukraine and elsewhere!

Our best future lies in being united, strong and totally independent! And that means we need both nuclear power and nuclear weapons as a deterrent! We also need to get into the space race big time, to ensure if for no other reason, we cannot be attacked from there! And we need to end the practice of exporting our most able minds and the better ideas. Nor are we served by the silencing of some of our more able minded oldies at a time where their wisdom and experience has never ever been more vital!

Simply put, there are some things more important, particularly now, than a few fat cats, their political cronies, making an unearned and an undeserved quid!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 7 March 2022 10:34:20 AM
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Danny boy. If only that were possible!? We could send Mr Putin in to the conflict with the Ukraine at the head of the most exposed ground force. To duke it out with the Ukrainian President. Where like more civilized Gentlemen they could settle it with (ball and powder) flintlocks at forty paces!?

A little lead pill between the peepers might cure Mr Putin's problems? but only if there is something left up there (as little grey cells) to effect?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 7 March 2022 10:47:57 AM
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What should the West learn from it and what measures they must now undertake?

Maybe DON'T STAGE COLOURED REVOLUTIONS IN OTHER COUNTRIES
- In order to cause conflicts and give NATO a reason to exist?

I'm sick of all of it, sick of all the lies.
- The first casualty of war is the truth -

And I'm sick of the US, the UN, the WHO, the WEF, the UK, the EU, the Ukraine, sick of China, sick of Scomo, sick of lying useless incompetent politicians, sick of mainstream media, sick of the pandemic, sick of the rigged 2-party system, sick of preferences, sick of social justice, political correctness, gender and ethnic quotas, sick of ALL 'agendas', sick of left-leaning schools, sick of University's, sick of women's issues, sick of equality, sick of minorities, sick of gay and transgender celebrations, sick of all this fake democracy and manufactured world.

Its all BS.

Democracy is just the tool they use to put nations in debt to the Western monetary system, and then rob nations.
The 2-party system just divides immigrants against nationalist, to sell our nation out to international treaties and our infrastructure out to foreign wealth management funds (bankers)

Russia is the sovereign state.
We are all VASSAL states of the Western International Order;
Who seem to have decided Russia and China's future already,
That they bow to our so-called western values.

Our nation is not a nation anymore, it is merely a global region.
Scomo's no more a leader than the manager of Bunnings;
When the real leaders gather around the Wesfarmers boardrooms.
He might as well be clinging onto Biden's inside pocket at present.

Why can't the Queen just grant us freedom from the Union Jack,
And give us nuclear technology as a parting gift
we could be neutral on our own continent without these global influences and obligations?

- Remain a voice of sense

How is helping start a war against Russia in ours or anyone's interests?
Answer is: It's not, but to get a war started they have to first convince us all it is.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 7 March 2022 1:18:40 PM
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Good point Armchair Critic- Kudos.
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 7 March 2022 1:42:06 PM
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