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Is China seriously considering military bases in the Pacific? : Comments

By Jeffrey Wall, published 21/1/2022

Just how a naval base and a military camp would qualify for all the taxation and other concessions that go with the PNG 'special economic zone' concept eludes me.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9011631/The-shocking-level-Chinese-ownership-Australia-cattle-stations-ports-water.html

Above is a less than comprehensive list of Chinese incursions through legitimate loop holes in Australian FI rules.

Chinese stranglehold on Australia is the real elephant in the room here and not PNG or a s*h tropical island in the South Pacific.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 21 January 2022 10:10:12 AM
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China gifted $ 35?

Our Pacific neighbours have no confidence in Australia; thatís why some of them are flirting with China. We can't protect ourselves, let alone the Pacific islands.

Inadequate forces; a week's worth of fuel in reserve. The Coalition has done nothing but talk; the incoming Labor government won't even talk about defence. Whatever China decides to do is well beyond the ability of Australia to counteract.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 21 January 2022 10:13:42 AM
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Yup! A nuclear powered and nuclear armed China is doing just that! And the target they are eyeing off, is resource rich Australia! All while the fools on the hill America will spill American blood to defend us! While our leaders argue and squabble about policy direction and make announcements about the need to make announcements.

If they should try China has nuclear weapons parked in space above them that could all but annihilate them!

By the time their early warning system kicked in, the mushroom clouds would already be spouting all over the joint! And America knows it!

China will move in and take whatever she wants while our leaders roar and tremble their impotent outrage like and old male monkey being repeatedly raped by a younger and quicker male monkey!

This has been coming for years as our quisling leaders confiscated our weapons! Because just one uncontrolled nutter used one to shoot a few civilians, desperately sad as that was!

Given China will attack soon! Our only defense will be to replicate that used by Vietnam. Blend in and hit and run when and where they're least able to defend. With independent cells that that are small and blend in with the populace. And escape via booby trapped trails etc.

Given I know how to handload very special deadly ammo that'll make a fifty cal into a virtual field piece and make effective explosives from "made in china" materials including nitro, that one can buy from the super market. I might, should I live, be part of one?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 21 January 2022 1:45:11 PM
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Let's have a bit of perspective here, boys!

China has one military base in Africa and has shown little intention of amassing more. The US in contrast has around 800 military bases, several in Australia and plans for more to come. Throughout its long history China has rarely invaded another country and respecting the sovereignty of other nations is still very much central to its foreign policy. The US in its relatively short life has rarely had a period at all when it wasn't at war, most of these conflicts brought on if not started by itself. It has a long history of coups, assassinations and bombing, a history which China doesn't share.

Yes, China is becoming more militarily assertive in our region which is very sad, though not at all the alarming threat it's made out to be on these pages. The US has China surrounded with around 400 military bases and militarily patrols Chinese borders and seas in a way it absolutely would never tolerate China doing along US borders and in US waters. The US is spending billions every year on weaponry and defence personnel to threaten and militarily contain China.

AUKUS is just one of the latest manifestations of this warmongering policy. Australia's mindless pandering to the US on this and many other issues is quite rightly earning us China's disdain. It's Western aggression, including ours, which might eventually raise the levels of Chinese ire, but so far, despite all the fear-mongering on these pages, there are no real signs of any imminent threat. The Belt and Road initiative is a win-win for all involved. If we refuse to join it, then it has nothing to do with us. It's only natural that Pacific nations are now looking to China. Perhaps if the West had done more to aid their development long before now this would not be the case.

You need to calm down boys! Why not focus on the real threat to our way of life ... climate change.
Posted by Bronwyn, Friday, 21 January 2022 4:39:14 PM
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Thanks Bronwyn, always good to get a reminder of how deranged the CCP apologists in our society can be. So it is the US which has a "long history of coups, assassinations and bombing, a history which China doesn't share".

Hard to know what you mean by the US having a long history of those things. A couple of presidents have been assassinated and there was a civil war, but nothing to compare to the civil war in China, which saw the Nationalists retreat to Taiwan (then Formosa), or the wholesale killing of people in the various Communist revolutions, still ongoing. Where is the US equivalent of Tianmen Square? Or the Cultural Revolution?

I could go on, but don't need to.

The biggest threat to the US is that lunatics like you have populated the universities and subverted the curriculums so that students have no idea what happened in the past, and then go out into the world to vote indoctrinated.
Posted by GrahamY, Friday, 21 January 2022 10:53:22 PM
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Quite so Bronwyn.

The USA is in decline in many areas and feels threatened by the rise of China as an economic power.
The term "Thucydides Trap" describes what is happening here.

A US general described those US bases surrounding China as "the perfect noose" which would sound somewhat aggressive and provocative if stated by another power. The last time another country tried to establish a military base near the USA was in Cuba (and was in response to the USA installing missile bases in Turkey) and imagine the outcry if China started performing naval maneuvers off the coast of California so it's obvious who the aggressor is in this case.

The media has been heavily involved in building anti-China sentiment and provocation and I suspect the next Federal election will be built around "who is tougher on China".

While the USA has had little internal conflict until now, they have a history of meddling in international affairs and overthrowing foreign democratic governments and installing despotic regimes when it suits their interests - Iraq, Iran, various South American interests for example.
Their legacy has been the death and displacement of millions of people. In fact the anniversary of the assassination of the Congo's Patrice Lumumba was just a few days ago and as well as Belgium and Britain, the CIA was heavily involved in his murder.
Posted by rache, Saturday, 22 January 2022 12:01:59 AM
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