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Australia is nuts in agreeing to adopt Net Zero : Comments

By Brendan O'Reilly, published 13/1/2022

The political choice now seems to be between Tweedledum and Tweedledee. Zero CO2 emissions, almost by definition, is an impossible target.

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Australia is fine; it is the political class and green activists who are "nuts", dupes of crooked scientists and carpetbaggers making their fortunes out of the nutters and citizens who cannot afford the climate/renewables codswallop.

The big beneficiaries of net zero will be the genocidal billionaire Beijing communists who are already making a killing as well as their Western camp followers, the various carpet-baggers and shysters who expect to share in the profits. The losers will be ordinary people, with Australians being among the world’s biggest losers of all.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 13 January 2022 8:54:05 AM
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The problem with the world we’ve inherited is it has moved from control by market forces, to one of control of the market by a domination by ideology: A hotch-potch world of psychotic outcomes.
Any wonder the West is a breeding ground for mass murderers .

Gets madder and madder.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 13 January 2022 9:00:30 AM
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Net Zero = Stone Age
bioenergy from burning wood and musclepower
Posted by Little, Thursday, 13 January 2022 9:30:12 AM
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Net zero cannot work without fraudulent use of dodgy carbon credits. The credits may be exaggerated, multiple counted or wrong in principle. There may be no emissions benefit or in the case of rubbery baselines (the 'safeguard mechanism') emissions can actually increase. I have to agree with Greenpeace that all credits be disallowed as they are so compromised.

Recall NZ's Ardern being one of the first to announce Net Zero. The green cheer squad applauded loudly yet have gone strangely silent as the country's emissions subsequently increased. We may have to face the likelihood that some green ideals may never be achieved at the required scale. To take just one example neither of Australia's primary steel makers see hydrogen being cost effective this side of 2050 if ever. Yet the green dreams continue.
Posted by Taswegian, Thursday, 13 January 2022 9:34:23 AM
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To achieve net zero all industry must cease as must all purchasing & consumption !
Posted by individual, Thursday, 13 January 2022 2:10:03 PM
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It all points to Western Democratic suicide, which will not only end the great western democratic tradition, though that is probably lost to the elites that game the system for their own benefit anyway.

It will also hand power to authoritarian countries who command the energy resources and manufacturing - Russia and China. These countries have also started moving away from the US-Euro financial hegemony which is flailing about in its death throes, like unreliable renewables.

It's all quite depressing.
Posted by richard rhys, Thursday, 13 January 2022 3:17:32 PM
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Six months ago the ruling class and their flying-monkey adherents also believed in zero covid. Then they got smacked around the ear by reality and now pretend that zero covid was never a consideration.

It'll take longer but reality will also smack these dills fair in the face as regards zero emissions. And they'll drop it with equal alacrity. And then pretend they never fell for it.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 13 January 2022 4:14:40 PM
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It is telling that nobody has expressed an opinion that Net Zero has any chance of being achieved.

Unless our politicians have an opposite view, then tens of billions are about to be wasted.
Posted by Bren, Thursday, 13 January 2022 7:58:07 PM
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UN Net Zero is just another scam for the eight billion humans to greenwash their endless economic growth and relentless war on the environment.

Ironically, this unscientific concept developed by greedy economists, but UN's Christiana Figueres and other green activists at a 2013 love-in:
https://www.climatechangenews.com/2019/09/16/net-zero-story-target-will-shape-future/
Posted by Steve S, Friday, 14 January 2022 5:45:24 AM
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It all points to Western Democratic suicide,
Richard Rhys,
Yes, the economic experts & social engineers have succeeded in the exercise of their ignorance !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 15 January 2022 6:41:20 AM
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Net Zero? Too easy if we transition to nuclear power as the old coal-fired power stations are decommissioned. And then replace all current energy exports with almost unimaginable raw electric power transmitted to our customer base via, Superconductor graphene cored, undersea cables!

To believe otherwise? Patently witless, airhead, echo-chamber, fools errand, thinking?

Can we afford the above proposed solution?

Well yes, always providing we accept a role as the world's premier repository for nuclear waste, we are paid annual millions to take and store!

But only after we have extracted thousands of years worth of virtually free energy still locked up in the stuff and only needing the application of MSR to extract!

Energy so cheap, that will allow us to manufacture absolutely anything here, all while exporting a monumentally massive surplus to an energy starved world! And should that energy paradigm be accompanied By genuine tax reform? Have the multinational manufacturing queuing to relocate all their activities here!

Even more so if we also invest in a nuclear powered fleet of submersible, cargo carrying vessels we own and operate to ensure allow us to compete and beat all-comers

Moreover, we will still need to mine some coal for High Carbon products or extraction of useful gas we can use in ceramic fuel cells as an alternative environmentally friendly, locally produced, import replacing, fuel.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 15 January 2022 12:43:15 PM
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Net zero clowns are off with the fairies however if in the right camp there is big money to be made. ( I just cant work out how to get there)
No one ever shows the dollar value to mine, produce and set up wind towers or solar cells which in a few years will be out of date and require massive holes to bury them. The useless media never show the facts of life.
Posted by gj123, Monday, 17 January 2022 2:29:44 PM
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Thorium is one of the most abundant elements on earth and the most energy dense. there is enough energy in just 8 grams of thorium to power your house and car for 100 years, without refueling.

mining and refining 8 grams of thorium may top out at around $100.00. And that my friends is just $1.00 year. Also zero emissions.

The downside? The fossil fuel companies are bankrupted as is nuclear power and big pharma has their profit margin more than halved.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 25 January 2022 11:57:50 AM
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