I don't dispute that co2 causes warming. What I question is the validity of predictions of what the climate will be like in twenty years. I also question the belief that renewables can replace conventional power generation without greatly increasing the cost. Further, I find the rejection of nuclear power irrational, especially in light of Germany's experience. It might be noted that China's energy plan for the next fifteen years is mostly coal and nuclear based. Solar cells are for the export market.

but markets, driven often by the actions of companies and their shareholders, are not stupid.

They will go where the money and investment will go.

Markets are a fundamental part of democracy and liberalism, so any criticism of the supposed left driving the agenda is likely to have little truth.

The Liberal Party has many voters that want action on climate change, and I doubt they can be dismissed as part of the loony left.

Fester, I agree. There may well be a higher cost, and I am sure life will go on.

These are the issues critics should focus on.

I still want to know the cost with dealing with all these batteries and panels.

Correct Diver Dan. I know so many elitist, " crystal" gulpoing academics who claim to be woke, yet while sitting in their Professorial ( and above) permanent no accountability chairs, yet have spend their time drooling over their " clever" stock portfolios, while paying struggling PhD/Post Docs to do their lecturing and tutoring. My old Profs wouldn't feed them air, let alone acknowledge their claim to be academics.

As For you Chris, you write opinions and have your say, but to claim that everyone of what you deem as " valuable" opinions have got it correct means you like them are just being led like sheep to the slaughter house.

Climate Change cultism lives, but don't expect those with commonsense ( and climate/water cycle/Erath science backgrounds) to join your cult. I have intent of joining you in the Chinese abattoir, which is where you cult is heading in 2050, if not earlier. Then you will understand the meaning of PRC democracy/capitalism.

If I can get the cash, I'll be heading to Mars with Elon Musk!

Correction last sentence in para 3 should read "I have NO intent of joining you in the Chinese abattoir, which is where you cult is heading in 2050, if not earlier. Then you will understand the meaning of PRC democracy/capitalism.

ps at the role was meant to be "Professorial" NOT " Professional" in Para 1.. the joys of spellchecker!!

Anyone who cannot see that the climate has changed and that change has absolutely nothing to do with natural cycles has rocks for brains or air where there should be brains!

Those who claim that renewables are the answer and are cheaper than coal are also talking rubbish. For starters, if we remove all the subsidies the Wiga slave labour used to mine and refine the silica in solar voltaic.

Solar voltaic would lose out to coal on all counts. And windmills only turn to generate productive power for about 15% of the time and need to turn for around thirty years to offset the carbon created in their manufacture.

I wouldn't care to rely on windmills to support a domestic steel or aluminium industry. Given the huge graphite vessels need constant power, as arcing electricity to keep the contents molten.

And if for any reason that power is interrupted. A million dollars worth of refractory grade graphite can be destroyed!

Aluminium could survive given a different smelting requirement

I don't see climate activists supporting renewables but rather huge vested interest!? Why? Because there are far better and far cheaper options that do not need a slave labour input, nor generous subsidise. But could start to earn a quid with the very first stroke of a pen!

The only thing holding MSR back was a couple of bugs (corrosion and tritium) which has since been ironed out.

The rest of the resistance comes, I believe, from vested interest with huge investments in coal and or renewables? And the usual whack jobs!? Who to a man ignore inconvenient truths!

Like what's the explanation for record heatwaves and much faster than predicted ice melts during a waning solar phase, AJ and Hasbeen!? When that shouldn't be occurring during a waning phase!

Are you blind or just terribly intellectually challenged?

Or, have so much money invested in coal that a transition to another cheaper form of reliable energy would virtually ruin you? I believe the latter explanation is the most plausible!
Alan B.