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A net-zero target means net-zero development : Comments
By Matthew Canavan, published 5/11/2021A Liberal-National Party government should strive for more jobs, not just different jobs.
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Posted by VK3AUU, Monday, 8 November 2021 9:25:21 AM
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That’s because it’s on your computer, just try leaving the ‘s’ off, believe me, we’ve been living with this idiosyncrasy for years.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 8 November 2021 12:21:44 PM
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LEGO,
Far from advocating human induced climate change, I advocate stopping it because I am aware of the problems it causes. And as an engineer, I know that although the task is enormous, it can be achieved while improving people's quality of life. And by "people" I'm referring to the entire population, not just a few. What demographic is mine? The one that's your worst nightmare: the people who are swayed by evidence; those who actually listen to the arguments on both sides before forming a long term opinion. The ones who see through lies, and never regard stereotypes as an adequate substitute for facts. I've been unable to find any record of the petition to congress you mentioned - are you sure you're not conflating it with the 1998 one mentioned in http://www.snopes.com/fact-check/30000-scientists-reject-climate-change/ ? Anyway, 36000 out of millions is insignificant. Now ultimately it's about the physics, and even one person with a good insight into why things are the way they are would be preferable to a billion without that insight. But the thing about science is that ideas are shared and tested. The good ones don't stay on the sidelines for very long. So while the number of scientists with a certain opinion isn't the ultimate determinant, it's a pretty good indicator of what is true. And I've yet to see an alternative hypothesis that truly fits the facts. Denialists invariably resort to obfuscation, false assumptions and ignoring the facts. It's not the genuinely sceptical scientists who get sacked, but the ones who ignore the evidence. And rightly so: they aren't doing their jobs properly. Though historically, oil companies have ensured that any scientists taking the denialist position are deluged with research money. (TBC) Posted by Aidan, Monday, 8 November 2021 3:45:22 PM
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LEGO (continued)
I agree with Eisenhower, and it's a shame subsequent presidents ignored his advice. And though I wouldn't classify it as the opposite danger, I do agree that deferring to a scientific-technological elite is undesirable. But what you don't seem to get is that ignoring the scientists is even worse the true solution is to improve education, so that the science is accessible for everyone, not just an elite. BTW I notice you didn't answer the questions I put to you. Do you find them too hard? Or is it just too embarrassing you failed to understand the difference between net and gross? _____________________________________________________________________________ VK3AUU, Of course it works. But http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-o-s/russia-nuclear-power.aspx works just as well and is more convenient for readers. _____________________________________________________________________________ Haseen, LOL! Landline is the same program it's always been, but you're now so closed minded that you dismiss anything which could shatter your delusions as "green communist propaganda"! For thinking people, of course, it is the claim that something is impossible, rather than the explanation of how people are doing it, that is propaganda. Posted by Aidan, Monday, 8 November 2021 3:47:21 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,
I will say it again: "This Bachelor of Arts graduate who went straight to Canberra after university to work for the Productivity Commission as a public servant for 10 years before becoming a staffer for Barnaby Joyce. Yet he parades around with a coal stained face dressed in fluro workwear. Just look at his Twitter profile picture." http://twitter.com/mattjcan This is exactly the kind of person you have been slagging off on forever. Why the love-in now? As to Landline mate, it hasn't changed, I think you might find you have. Happens to all of us, becoming curmudgeonly old farts afraid of any change. Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 8 November 2021 3:55:18 PM
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Aidan, & SR, there is one thing that is of net zero value. It is the bland assurances of a naive dill, & a con man.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 12:09:10 AM
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https://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-o-s/russia-nuclear-power.aspx seems to work on my computer.
David