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God got it wrong : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 29/9/2021

If we are created in God's image, what does that say about God?

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Dear Atheist,

«Imagine the number of people killed in the name of one religion or the other.»

You just nailed it: people get killed IN THE NAME of religion, it is not religion which kills them - it is people, foolish people who have no real idea about religion (assuming they even genuinely cared about God in the first place).

«Their beliefs have absolutely no foundation.»

Not if you attempt to treat them as facts, but religious beliefs were not meant to be facts, they were meant as thought-techniques that can help devotees on their path to God. God is beyond any description or intellectual understanding - either you know God or you don't, but these beliefs (when taught correctly) are helpful and operate as a crutch until you do.

«All their deaths revolved around who has the best Sky fairy.»

Just to show that these murderous idiots ridiculously equate God with some sky-fairy.

«There is not on single piece of evidence to support the existence of such a sky fairy»

Anything which exists is limited, including sky-fairies, if they did.
A limited being, powerful as it might be, is not worthy of worship or seeking, certainly unworthy of being called "God".

Clearly God does not exist, for otherwise He/She/It would be limited, if by nothing else than at least by existence, presumably their own creation.

«nor the existence of any prophet or saints.»

Perhaps not a material evidence, but when you see someone behaving completely selflessly, sacrificing everything they have, including their life if necessary, for the well-being of others, that is an indication of their sainthood. I had the fortune to meet someone like that.

«A total waste of human life.»

We are here to learn. No life is completely wasted if we learn our lessons, including the unpleasant and fatal ones.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 11:18:44 PM
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The big bang theory is just not credible! But supported by folk who want to believe there's no God nor intelligent design!

Gravity measurements tell us that the most abundant matter in the universe is dark matter. And the known universe could be a tiny projection of dark matter transformed into what we know as the immeasurable known universe? [Given from nothing you get nothing!]

Other than that, we know that the visible universe and everything in it, including you and I, is part of a unified field and as such, just transformed energy vibrating a tad below the speed of light.

Can the universe think or love? Well, you and I can and we are an integral part of it. When you or I think a thought, there is a measurable transfer of electrical energy between one brain synapse and another. And all matter is also transformed energy! Think about that!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 30 September 2021 9:31:25 AM
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Dear Yuyutsu,

One cannot learn a fatal lesson. Somebody else may learn a lesson from the fact of our demise. I don't think we are here to learn or for any other particular purpose. We learn to do things that will help us survive. Sometime we learn things that will make us less likely to survive. In the end none of us survive. However, learning can give us pleasure.

You must have joy from meeting the saintly person you mentioned. I have joy from remembering my grandmother who combined love, kindness and skepticism better than anyone else I have ever met.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 30 September 2021 9:52:44 AM
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It's incredible that the very people who don't believe in God, blame this non-existent God for the bad behaviour of humans like themselves.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 30 September 2021 10:43:03 AM
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Dear David,

«One cannot learn a fatal lesson. Somebody else may learn a lesson from the fact of our demise.»

Yes, others too may be able to learn, but I should have made myself clearer: logically, one indeed cannot learn a lesson after their demise, but this inevitable demise which I referred to by loosely using the word "fatal", only describes the demise of our body, thus we can hopefully still learn to not repeat our mistakes the next time around.

«I don't think we are here to learn or for any other particular purpose. We learn to do things that will help us survive.»

This sounds depressing: why would one care to learn such things that could help their bodies to survive a while longer if they already know that this fix can only be temporary, while also thinking that there is no other purpose for us to be here? Yes, they may obtain some temporary pleasure from the act of learning, but this pleasure too would neither last nor is believed by them to constitute a purpose.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 30 September 2021 2:10:13 PM
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Dear Yuyutsu,

I get pleasure from learning. I know the pleasure is only temporary, and the gray cells that contain that learning will decay with my death. Why do you think there will be a next time around? Some of the atoms that make up my body will be part of another living body in the future. Most won't. My consciousness will disappear with my death. All pleasure as all pain is evanescent. Our pleasure like our suffering is temporary. That's life. That's death.

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/246/246-h/246-h.htm

I sometimes think that never blows so red
The Rose as where some buried Caesar bled;
That every Hyacinth the Garden wears
Dropt in its Lap from some once lovely Head.

Enjoy it.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 30 September 2021 3:16:40 PM
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