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Messianic failure: pursuing the GWOT Jabberwock : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 13/9/2021

The Global War on Terrorism, is some two decades old, and it has revealed little by way of benefit for anybody other than military industrialists, hate preachers and jingoists.

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Who are the "hate preachers" and "jingoists"? Those people who object to terrorism and being slaughtered by them? This bloke gets nuttier with every post. All the hate lies with terrorists; that's why the are terrorists.

The war on terror hasn't stopped the terrorists because the limp West hasn't gone about it hard enough, and has been handicapped by cultural relativism and the stupidity of multiculturalism and mass immigration, which means open house to terrorists.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 13 September 2021 8:55:34 AM
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Yep to that.
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 13 September 2021 8:57:20 AM
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Got news for you, Binoy. "The war on bank robberies" continues and since no society can eradicate bank robbery, I presume you would advocate for not prosecuting bank robbers? You can only shake your head in pitying wonder at the "logic" of these social "progressives".

Muslims are devotees of a religion who's very holy book calls for the genocidal extermination of non believers, or their forcefull conversion to Islam, so importing such backward barbarians into advanced western societies was never going to end well. But "social progressives" such as your good self were the ones who defended Muslim immigration, and still do. The indisputable fact is that had the western world not allowed Muslim immigrants into our societies, the western world would be safer, more prosperou8s, and "the war on terror" would never have happened.

Instead we rack our brains inventing X-ray machines to see through people's clothing at airports, even little regional ones, to stop Muslim terrorists boarding aircraft with bombs in their tennis shoes or underpants. And who are the ones screaming about that? Muslims of course.

The people like me who support the war on terror are the ones who opposed Muslim imigration because we could see what was coming. It was people like you who oh, so virtuously oppose the war on terror who want Muslim immigration to continue. Keep throwing fuel into the fire, Binoy.

3000 US citizens and 8 Australians died on 9/11, so what dod you think the yanks were going to do? it on their hands and say "this is just too hard?" "Lets all become Muslims so that the Muslim terrorists will leave us alone?" Ignoring 9/11 would have been like the USA ignoring Pearl Harbour.

Our biggest mistake in Afghanistan was to not import thousands of Christian and Buddhist priests into that Islam blighted country and converted the ignorant natives to a religion that is more attuned to the modern world.
Posted by LEGO, Monday, 13 September 2021 9:01:04 AM
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God Lego.

A religious war between Muslims and Christians. We have a history of that too; loosely called the Crusaders.

We lost that war too. And the victors were the Muslims. The first war lost by the fledgling failure called Democracy.

There is no hope mate.

Now we’re about to hand it all over to the Chinese who hatched out the new era under the fluffy wing of Capitalism, sometimes confused with Democracy

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 13 September 2021 10:24:25 AM
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Now that the CCP has mated up with the Taliban, it will no longer be just "socialism with Chinese characteristics" but socialism plus terror with Chinese characteristics, all in the one nasty package.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 13 September 2021 11:23:44 AM
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Ttbn

The beauty of that situation will be the ease of revenge action for domestic terrorist attacks aimed at local Chinese.
That will prove to be interesting!

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 13 September 2021 11:36:34 AM
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Well agued LEGO! This fruit cake, gets way too much freedom to spread his fruit loop and barely veiled hate speech on this forum!

While you and I rarely agree, this is one of those rare occasions, where we do! And do not worry, when I disagree, I'll continue to robustly, let you know, in no small measure!

And to the point, there has to be continued zero tolerance for terrorism and terrorists whatever their political stripes or BS cause!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 13 September 2021 12:05:46 PM
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Speaking of the GWOT, messianic failures and a pathetic failed President too, why not check out the set of essays published by the Global Research outfit titled Selected Articles 20th Anniversary of 9/11: US War Agenda Under the Cloak of War on Terror.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Monday, 13 September 2021 2:34:45 PM
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Most of those who die from COVID are killed by a cytokine-storm, where their own immune system attacks their lung cells.

The same can be said of terrorism.

It is not us, ordinary people, but governments whom terrorists try to threaten and blackmail - us, are just of no value to them.

So had government declared (and proved they mean so) that they do not care about us, ordinary people, that if terrorists blow us up then it's our tough luck, not theirs, so they won't interfere, then terrorists would soon stop wasting their time and energy attacking us, ordinary people.

Another thing that would help a lot is, that the media stops reporting terrorist attacks: what is not reported cannot produce terror!

As it stands, we pay the bulk of the price for the government's wars, some call it "human shields". Government of course, would lose no opportunity to restrict us, nor to try to present itself as our "saviours".
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 13 September 2021 2:53:23 PM
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To Diver Dan.

The fascists who run the misnamed Communist party of China are a lot smarter than you. Faced with a growing terrorism problem from the Uyghur minority they took decisive action and forced the Uyghars to decide whether were Muslims or Chinese. I will say one thing for Muslims, Communists, and Fascists, they don't tolerate diversity at all. They know that diversity means division, and division means serious trouble. You are either one of them, or you are the enemy.

Now, if you knew anything about history, and especially the history of warfare, you would not be such a Muslimphile. All of the Middle East was largely composed of Christians, Jews, and Zoroastrians when Mohammad and his bunch of camel train raiding pirates swept out of Arabia and began attacking the Christian world. Mohammad had invented a new kind of warfare, the religious war, where what was essentially organised armed robbery became a religious duty, rewarded by earthly booty (slaves, girls, property) or lots of sex in heaven if you got killed.

Worked a treat. The Muslims took all of Christian north Africa, most of Spain, the Balkans, Greece, Constantinople and Anatolia, the Crimea and Ukraine, they got into France before they were stopped by Charles the Hammer. They got to the gates of Vienna twice. They got thrown back into the sea when they attacked Malta. From Malta their pirate ships could have dominated the entire Mediterranean sea.

Now when you have a successful way of fighting, you can bet your enemies will copy it. The crusades were the Christian equivalent of Jihad. They did not work because Europe was too divided to unite against a common enemy.

Today we face the same enemy we have faced for 1400 years who makes no bones about telling us that we are their enemy. And just like in the past the Europeans are divided and getting more diverse. You, yourself once claimed that the more Muslims in Australia "the better." That is like Israelis supporting the immigration of Nazis.

Not real smart.
Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 7:08:02 AM
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Lego.

Without getting too involved re your criticisms, I’ll roughly address them.

I’m a supporter of Theist States, in opposition to the debauched Secular disaster with its rule under a rainbow flag, thus my reference to Muslim immigration.

On that note, you’ll notice now the secular Au cuddling up to Muslim dominated Indonesia against the Chinese.
I think your out of step.

And you will notice a bunch of Muslim yobbos, have just now defeated the might and power of the US in Afghanistan. That does not have a good look.

As for Muslim advances into the West, you fail to mention the facilitating prior events.
Notably the sacking of Constantinople by the fourth Crusaders. A blow the Byzantine Empire was unable to recover from.

Your problem Lego is your ego!

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 9:04:43 AM
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