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The Taliban take Kabul : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 17/8/2021

In departing and leaving stranded colleagues to their fate, the bookish Ghani, preferring pen to gun, had time to leave a message on Facebook.

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The Theist State wins again.

Take note how itís done Christians!

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 8:39:21 AM
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Let's see if the bozos who got Australian and Americans killed for nothing in that shithole country will get the message and stay away from the Middle East and Islamic fanatics. My prediction is that they will not learn anything, and that they will repeat the stupidity sometime in the near future.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 9:29:11 AM
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Hell, the Afghan so-called army didn't fire a shot against the Taliban, who took over in a matter of hours. The president was first out of the country. Yet, the chattering class is talking about "Western shame". The only thing that the West should be ashamed of is trying to fight gutless Afghans wars for them, and bringing about the deaths of Australians and Americans, when what goes on there, and will always go on there, is nothing to do with the defence of Australia or America, whose political classes are doing very little in that area.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 9:41:21 AM
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Ah so. And I don't give a flying french frankfurt! I think we should have stayed the course, even when that meant, we used some tactical nuclear weapons on these monsters as they crossed borders to regroup and continue their campaign of endless attrition.

I mean the Afghan army had 25,000 men the Taliban 7500. 7500 men, 5000 Kurdistan female warriors could have whipped hands down! And could have been deployed but for Trump's easy come easy go (plenty more where that came from) treatment of allies.

Moreover, the Afghan men could have been far better led with the inclusion of Aussie advisors and significant, ruthless artillery and air support replete with smart bombs. We had these animals down and out and only needed a coup de grace.

But that would have meant we left the military experts at the helm calling all the shots as opposed to gormless bean-counting pollies continually pulling the teeth of our fighting men and women!

Furthermore, the missing element here was the rapid economic development the Afghan people may have fought with implacable resolve if they had it! But, it was basically, too little too late, mostly all stick and no carrot plus a few handouts, bribery and corruption/i.e., American capitalism?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 17 August 2021 11:11:49 AM
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Hey Binoy

I wouldn't come down too hard on the poor Afghan President Ghani.

I am advised that when President Ghani abandoned his people, by fleeing overseas:

He "did not leave Kabul empty-handed. A spokesman for the Russian Embassy in Kabul said, ďFour of his cars cars were full of American money,

Ghani tried to stuff more of the money into a helicopter, but not all of it would fit.

Ghani had to leave some of the money lying on the tarmac at Kabul Airport."
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 12:58:38 PM
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On 12 August US 'intelligence' advised that Kabul could fall within 90 DAYS of the withdrawal of US troops.

90 HOURS later, Kabul fell.

This is not a Saigon moment. This is far worse.

The US has been thoroughly humiliated. The entire US swamp of foreign affairs 'experts' have been shown to be utterly incompetent. The US military, far more concerned about indoctrinating 'Critical Race Theory' into their training than in actually winning wars, has been thoroughly humiliated.

Don't even think about the current administration who have demonstrated that they are utterly incapable of even organising an abject surrender.

There is oodles of blame to go around in the US for this failure. You can see it as everyone rushes to point the finger at someone else.The one certainty in it all is that no one will actually be forced to walk the plank over the greatest humbling a super-power has had to face since the defeat of Varus.

After the debacle of South Vietnam, the US effectively withdrew from the world and suffered further humiliations in Cambodia and Iran. They demonstrated a complete unwillingness to get involved in any other foreign issues which is why the Russians felt they could invade Afghanistan with impunity.

The Taiwanese will be looking with trepidation across the China Sea today, knowing that the power they relied on for their freedom has been shown to be a paper tiger led by morons and cowards.

The CCP will be trying to work out what to take first - consolidate their winnings in Afghanistan, push India around a little more, or go for the big prize in Formosa.

Eventually the US did stabilise the situation after 1975 by finding a saviour in Reagan. But much had been lost in the meantime.

What will be lost this time? Australia needs to worry bout that now. I doubt we have the personnel to make those assessments, but we have to come to terms with the fact that the CCP has won and we need to live in that world.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 4:22:31 PM
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