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When is a threat not a threat? : Comments

By Philip Lillingston, published 6/8/2021

Massoud's counsel brought up a classic 1669 Common Law case of 'Tuberville v Savage', where it was held that a threat cannot be a threat when it expressly stipulates it won't be carried out.

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In the big end of town, up where most of the money is, superfluous argument over total insignificance, actually extracts the food from the mouths of the other end of humanity that call a bridge a home! Shame on you!

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 6 August 2021 8:34:23 AM
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When is a threat no a threat? when it is never ever made or uttered!

Albeit, a threat that's made can be withdrawn if made in haste and under this or that duress! Along with contrite apologies etc-etc.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 6 August 2021 11:11:48 AM
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Dan, I’m guessing you agreed with Scot Morrison when he made the following speech back in 2017 during a debate over the abolition of 18C.

“I know there are a lot of people who are interested in this issue. As a senior figure in this government...I know this issue doesn't create one job, doesn't open one business, doesn't give anyone one extra hour. It doesn't make housing more affordable or energy more affordable. I don't see any intersection between that issue and those priorities.”
Posted by Edward Carson, Friday, 6 August 2021 11:31:30 AM
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Edward Carson

If you read carefully what I said, the meaning of it is exactly contrary to Morrison’s dismissive quote.

Dragging people through court for examples such as this article uses as case study, is counterintuitive to justice.

All this leads to the question of “what is justice if it isn’t spread equally through society”?

Example: My sample person reduced to living under a bridge, would make empty threats daily as a survival tactic. But the man living under the bridge is irrelevant since he has no resources to mount a legal defence to such claims against him.
In justice terms he is irrelevant!

Here is another example of injustice by the justice department.
An acquaintance of mine mentioned in conversation recently, his fraught efforts to gain access to his children through the family court.
He has ticked up $200k in legal expenses so far from his own resources, with no legal aid assistance.
The disturbing aspect of his situation is, his is not the uncommon experience he assures me from contacts he makes in the course of events.

There appears to be a $200k ceiling to be reached before the situation begins to show signs of progress.

If you are a seperated parent attempting to reunite with your children through the family law courts, the “bribe” to be paid is $200k. minimum.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 6 August 2021 2:13:47 PM
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It wasn't a threat because, as Massoud explained the other person was too young & inexperienced so therefore was not in danger.
Posted by individual, Friday, 6 August 2021 10:30:44 PM
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Edward Carson. I agree with much of what you say. Especially on the topic of energy. One simply cannot forget Treasurer Morison in parliament with a lump of coal he used as an illegitamite prop.

And his endless obsfucation on energy policy since. Or that various public channel presenters have jumped on speakers to virtually censor sensible discussion on nuclear power as an option! And it has to be an option and on the table, when the cost of energy becomes higher than the wages bill and forces major industries offshore!

Automation will, as it is rolled out ASAP! Cause the loss of countless occupations/jobs, jobs, jobs. And taxpaying taxpayers!

As Morison and others turn a blind eye/kick this can a little further down the road! Even as we rack up eye-glazing debt levels that will need to be repaid by massively increased production and the export of volume manufactured exports!

And the only real prospect of that is linked/welded to the world's cheapest energy and real, long overdue tax reform/decentraliseation!

For peaceful purposes, nuclear energy, is not a threat ! Nor an implied threat to anyone, except the abysmally or wilfully ignorant, but rather, a rescue from the very real threat of a mass extinction event caused by unstoppable climate change!
TBC.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 7 August 2021 12:05:39 PM
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