Taswegian, the temperature has been rising for 300 years so whats news ?
So what has caused the record cold weather around the globe ?
Those reports are on too short a time scale. The temperature goes
up and down all the time depending on what cycle dominates.
That is the crux of the matter. Eventually all coincide and that is
the ultimate peak in temperature.
Looks like might be about 2000 but Fourier will supply that answer.

I think Don is right in calling an end to debating the issue. The facts of the matter are no longer of importance.

This occurred when the climate data was no longer telling the story the alarmists required of it. So these days the alarmists just assert that we're all gunna die 40 years from next Tuesday week and refuse to discuss it any further.

Bazz is probably right, that there will be declines in temperature trends over the next few decades. But again that no longer matters. The data will be suppressed and/or altered and/or ignored. Because this isn't about the climate any more. This is about a jihad against the evil fossil fuels.

But the jihad is only being fought in the west. In the sane parts of the world, China, India Africa etc they are continuing the love affair with coal and oil and have no intention of sacrificing the welfare of the their nation on these false western gods.

But in the west, the battle is over. The alarmists have won, for the time being. There will come a time when the majority will come to see that they've been sold a pup. This very week, in ultra-woke California, people are being asked to not charge their electric cars because its putting too much strain on the grid, a grid that has been denuded of fossil fuels.

We in Australia will reach a crisis point some time this decade when the grid will start to wilt. We'll see how popular alarmism is then

Mhaze "We in Australia will reach a crisis point some time this decade when the grid will start to wilt. "

That is about the only true thing in your whole argument.

David

Yes mhaze the warmists have won for the moment. Too many of extreme wealth have hung their money growth on the global warming gravy train.

Fortunately for the next generation, as the earth cools & the alternate power money tree fails to provide the power required for our current standard of living, the the scam will collapse. It will be interesting to see how far the vengeance of the duped masses will go. Will heads roll, or simply fortunes evaporate?

What I can't understand is how they got the thousands who have the math to understand the false foundation of the scam to go along with it. A simple believer until climate gate sowed the seed of doubt, it took me months of hard work by this aging brain to get my math back up to where I could easily follow the formula involved in the radiation absorption of CO2, water vapor & other atmosphere gasses. Once there it is obvious that CO2 in an atmosphere with much higher water vapor content, simply can not do what the theory requires of it.

With past history of much higher temperatures the tipping points rubbish required to make it even partially work falls apart, proving the whole thing a scam.

The question then arises, why do the thousands who must know, go along with the scam, & secondly, what is the objective of the scam? I can only assume it is to put us peasants back on the manor where the elite believe we belong, weened of our luxurious life styles, no other reason makes any sense, that I can see.

One thing is for sure, the planet doesn't give a damn.

VK3AUU

"That is about the only true thing in your whole argument."

Yeah, there were so many errors in my post that you couldn't find one. Just wanting it to be wrong, isn't the same as it being wrong.

Speaking of being hoplessly wrong, you wrote (among a lot of other drivel)..."The ice floes in the Arctic sea are diminishing year by year to the extent that the polar bears who rely on their presence are starving and their young are not surviving,"

The fact is that polar bear numbers are increasing and have been for a few decades now.

Hasbeen,
"why do the thousands who must know, go along with the scam,"

Thousands or millions? But they go along because to do otherwise is career destroying. And going along is career enhancing. That's why the majority of the so-called 'deniers' are older, either retired or at the pinnacle of their career with nothing to lose.
On the other hand, going along with AGW can make the mediocre rich and famous. Look at Mann or the thorough unscrupulous Lowendowsky. Mediocrities who made a career of telling the alarmists what they wanted to hear.

mhaze opines "Bazz is probably right, that there will be declines in temperature trends over the next few decades."

Meanwhile towns in Canada closer to the pole than the equator are experiencing record temperatures and it is killing people.

Bazz is probably right, that there will be declines in temperature trends over the next few decades.

"Hundreds of people are likely to have died as a result of record-breaking temperatures in Canada and the US Northwest, authorities say.

While more than 60 fatalities in the US state of Oregon have been linked to the heat, the Canadian province of British Columbia experienced a 195 per cent increase in sudden deaths.

Lisa Lapointe, British Columbia’s chief coroner, said there had been a minimum of 486 “sudden and unexpected deaths” over the five days to Wednesday.

This comes after Lytton, a village in the province, recorded the highest-ever temperature in Canada earlier this week, with the mercury reaching 49.6C. It was evacuated on Wednesday, after it became engulfed by a fast-moving wildfire."

Blind fools.