Thank you for correcting me mhaze.

I have not read "Dark Emu" and I doubt if you have either. If an "historian" from a group of people that I already know are liars had written a book about how the Aztecs had a space program, would you even bother to read it?

What have I read on aboriginal culture?

I read the book "White out" (I can not name the author because I recently moved and many of my books are still in storage), which put all of the problems of aboriginal society squarely upon (surprise, surprise) "blame the white guy for everything."

I have read Keith Windshuttle's two books on "The Fabrication of Aboriginal History" by post modernist, left wing historians. I saw with my own eyes on TV one of those historians (a woman) burst into tears and admit to the 60 Minutes team (after being confronted on camera with direct evidence) that she had twisted the meanings of recorded first person historical accounts to conform to her left wing agenda. I read the series of debates in "The Australian" newspaper between Michael Manne (proponent of the "Stolen Generations" propaganda and Keith Windshuttle, and it was clear who was telling the truth. Manne was evasive, presented "facts" which Windshuttle easily refuted, relied upon character assassination, and stood on his dignity. Windshuttle simply stated the facts.

Aboriginal people were so primitive they did not even wear clothing, and you want me to believe that they had a sophisticated society? Every book I have read about aboriginal culture stresses how cruel aboriginal men are towards aboriginal women. And still are. Governor Phillip himself personally intervened to prevent an aboriginal man from killing a young aboriginal woman. One publication on crime in Australia, claimed that the murder of aboriginal women by aboriginal men is so common, and so well known by government authorities as part of aboriginal culture, that the male murderer is much more likely to be charged with "manslaughter" than murder.

You are a woman, aren't you? And this is the culture that you are defending and idealising

"Thank you for correcting me mhaze."

My pleasure. Of course some here aren't open to help if it challenges their prejudices.

I've read Dark Emu but not the recent book. But then based on its reviews I don't think it says anything I didn't already know.

I've read all of Windschuttle's books and the critiques of them. Also all of the articles etc that I could find on the history wars. For example there's been a massive argument going on about how small pox came to Australia.

Of course, despite what we're told, the debate over the so-called stolen generation has basically resolved in favour of those who pointed out that no such group exists or existed. The supporters of the claims of a stolen generation basically now just say its true because they want it to be true.

"Aboriginal people were so primitive...."

I've urged anyone interested to read the diaries of Charles Sturt who travelled through S-E Australia in the early 19th century. His was an unbiased account of the aboriginal people unaffected by political needs and shows just how backward they were.

"how cruel aboriginal men are towards aboriginal women."

This article is interesting....http://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-16/supreme-court-judge-blokland-sexual-assault-victims-banished/100216398

"NT Supreme Court judge urges action to stop sexual assault victims being banished from their communities"

I've tried to raise the issue of aboriginal domestic violence here several times. But the pro-Aboriginal crowd here aren't the slightest interested in it. It seems that the travails of aboriginal women aren't of concern to these people. Only white women suffering mysogyny is important to them.

Hi Mhaze. Despite Foxy declaring to her allies that she was going to fight it out with her critics this time, she appears to have left the arena. Maybe what we wrote about the traditional brutality that aboriginal men have always shown towards their women hit a nerve, and she finally did some thinking? Anyhoo, she is definitely AWOL.

If I remember correctly, "The Australian" newspaper did a hit piece on Dark Emu and it's author, Bruce Pascoe. Apparently he claims that he is aboriginal. But if I remember correctly, "The Australian" hired a genealogist to find out who his ancestors were, and she could not find any aborigines in his ancestry at all. He appears to be as big a phony as his book.

It reminds me of that book written by an aboriginal woman who claimed that she was raped by her pastoralist employer, and the book won a literary award. The book was attacked by the family of the deceased employer, who's family records completely debunked her whole story.

Or the blond haired, blue eyed US woman who dyed her hair black, used dark contact lenses, and used hormones to darken her skin, then claimed that she was one of the "oppressed?"

Maybe Foxy had such a sheltered life that she does not possess the social skill which most working class people have, of smelling a rat? How any woman with a degree could accept the premise that naked stone age primitives had a "sophisticated" social system, is beyond me? I get the idea that Foxy thinks that aboriginal people lived a Hobbit like existence before those evil whites destroyed paradise? It just goes to show how wishful thinking can trump common sense.

Pascoe claims that aboriginal people had democracy. Sure they did. In any case, I thought that Foxy's comrades hated democracy anyway? So why that would even consider that a virtue boggles me? She probably thinks that aboriginal people had carbon neutral factories in Pascoe's fabled "towns" making microchips and solar panels.

Perhaps she drinks too much Merlot?

It is amusing how the Left Whingers are twisting in the wind. Their icon Pascoe has been caught and his Dank Emu has the academic merit of a pulp novel.

I wouldn't pay 5c for this ideological drivel.

FOxxxxxyyyyyyyy!

Where arrrrrrrrrre youoooooooooooooooo?

Hey guys. Do you think that maybe the penny might be statrting to drop with Foxy? Is she smart enough to figure out that a white man who claims to be a black man, and who wrotes a so called "historical" book which claims that the (surprise, surprise) white race has done something absolutely dastardly to the black race, might really be promoting racial hatred of whites?

Especially since he claims in his book that stone age primitive aboriginal people had a "sophisticated" society with towns and democracy? Because reasoned logic would say that such a claim looks a bit far fetched? Foxy might now be thinking, "Is this the sort of claim that even PT Barnum would hesitate to promote, given his experience with dealing with complete idiots who can believe anything?

Is Foxy starting to think? Is she using impartial logic to sift through data that seems self evidently implausible, submitted by a man who appears to be a completer fraud? A man has been denounced by historians as a complete fraud to the extent, that one historian wrote an entire book pointing out the fabrications? ?

Or, is her deep psychological need to fit in with her university mates so strong, that she uses the three monkey approach to any leftist accusations against her own people, instead of giving these clearly fraudulent claims an impartial assessment?

Anyhoo, Foxy. I hope you understand that what I am saying to you is kindly meant, becasue I ask you to please obtain a copy of Burt Lancaster in the movie "Elmer Gantry", and see if you can make any connections with the sort of people who followed Elmer, and the loony left.

Well mahaze and shadowminister, so this is where you have been lurking along with your fellow travelers and speaking hogwash to a nice little echo chamber while belting out your nasty little perspectives. Oh what fun.

Still not a single instance of Pascoe fabricating anything though.

Dear Alan.B,

You write:

"It's a whitewash (oops, Blackwash) that excludes the violent tribal wars, the wife hunting, the normalised degree of domestic abuse, the widespread sexual abuse of minors, the colour coded infanticide, and vicious head hunting cannibalism and the homosexual orgies dressed up as secret men's business/initiation ceremonies."

Bloody hell mate, where is all this guff coming from? I have read early explorer accounts which speak quite glowingly of Aborigines as being physically superior to most classes of Englishmen and exhibiting good humour and quick intelligence.

As a race there is a gentleness which is repeatedly flagged as a significant trait by those who came into early contact. For a large part I think they measure up remarkably well compared to many other cultures of that time.