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Is a Malaysian national unity government possible? : Comments

By Murray Hunter, published 11/6/2021

The idea for a national unity government gained steam last month when activists and regular political commentators issued an open letter calling for such a government.

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Why not? What actually prevents it? I'd suggest just a handful of power-hungry divisive politicians is all that stands between a unified nation and a dived nation at war with itself?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 11 June 2021 10:57:02 AM
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Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here. But doesn't Malaysia already have a government that represents a majority of the population?

A majority of the population is ethically malay & religiously muslim.

So if you have a majority of Muslim Malays in the Malaysian parliament.

Isn't that democracy in action, doing what democracy is supposed to do?
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Friday, 11 June 2021 4:23:16 PM
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Of course Malaysia can never be a democracy again. It is a multicultural society where Muslims are in the Majority and they will never, ever, relinquish power to infidels. That would be against their religion. So the minorities in Malaya, the Chinese, Indians and indigenous populations, will have to suck it up.

Democracy can only work where people share a generally common perception of what is right and what is wrong. When you create a culturally divided society where a significant proportion of the population have diametrically opposed values to another significant part of the population, then you had better choose which form of totalitarianism by one race, class, or religion you want.

Absolute monarchy, Marxism, Fascism, or religious republic?
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 12 June 2021 4:11:10 AM
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LEGO. A secular society welded to the economic paradigm of cooperative capitalism. Step out your door and leave your religious convictions where they belong in your home your heart and churches/meeting halls, where the like-minded can share those values as an absolute right. But never have the right to force never ever proven belief systems down the throats of others as if their belief system/opinions were proven fact or irrefutable facts!

Foxy. You are my kind of people! And I admire your work ethic etc. one not shared by all, but particularly loudmouth lumps of lard sitting on their collective asses taking credit for the work ethic of others, who in truth earn or create all the nations wealth!

And represented by enterprising diligent folks like yourself and your forbears.

My first abode was a stable, with very rudimentary living quarters attached, then a tin shed with a dirt floor. Had periods where we slept rough and explored garbage cans for food scraps to just survive. Spent hours with bent back harvesting food for the dinner tables of the better off.

Burnt the midnight oil, to gain the current tertiary qualifications I now have. Always did more than I was ever paid for! Owned and operated three businesses during my more mature years. Never put my hand out for government money, when I cared for my invalid mum during the last ten years of her life, when the results of her chain-smoking finally came home to roost.

You and yours can put your feet under my humble table anytime and welcome.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 12 June 2021 11:36:12 AM
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To Alan B. After reading and re reading your post to me, I have concluded, that I have absolutely no idea of what point you were trying to make.

And the point was ?
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 12 June 2021 2:42:36 PM
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Sorry, Lego. Point. For any nation with as many religions and ethnic cultures as Malaysia to survive as a modern democracy. It must be secular.

And leave religion out of it. But guarantee freedom of religious belief or practise for all its citizens, even atheists/non-believers.

I believe in three things as proven reality, my mother's name and the fact that everything I perceive as reality, is just part of the unified field of energy, including you and I, that is the universe.

All else is unproven speculation including all religious belief! Lastly, I do believe in a God or intelligent design!

And if that doesn't fit your belief system, then you have to believe in magic as the only other possible explanation of reality. Given from nothing you get nothing and lots of it. Don't intend to debate you any further on these points. Given your trouble understanding, the plain as the nose on your face, point!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 12 June 2021 6:29:57 PM
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Hi Alan B:- The most evil regimes in world history have all been secular states. Australia thankfully is a Christian state.

Try talking to a real lawyer who actually knows what they are talking about. Like Augusto Zimmermann for example.
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Saturday, 12 June 2021 7:53:27 PM
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To Alan B.

Human beings are tribal and territorial. That is part of our DNA. Every nation state on Earth was founded upon the religious principles of one religion or another. In every case, the cultural values of the nation state will be based upon the dominant religion of that state. In every case, where the dominance of the primary culture is threatened by another religious culture, either through immigration or birth rate differentials, the result has always been civil war. This is especially so when the cultural values of the different cultures are mutually exclusive. I would submit as an example Yugoslavia where Catholic, Orthodox, and Muslims could only co exist under the dictatorship of Joseph Broz Tito. When this remarkable man died, his country fell apart. And what replaced it? Several separate nominally democratic nation states based entirely upon the religious culture of the regional areas.

Multiculturalism leads to division and instability. Democracy can not survive where a very culturally diverse population has very different, strongly held ideas as to what constitutes correct behaviour, and population proportions are changing.

You can never take religion out of politics because religion is politics. Islam especially sees no separation between religion and politics. Tolerance towards other religions within a dominant religious culture can only occur where the dominant religious culture does not feel threatened by another culture.

The dominant culture of Malaysia is Islam. Because Hindus, Christians, and Buddhist people make up such a large proportion of the Malay population, and because nobody wants a civil war, the Muslims will be tolerant towards their fellow countrymen. But that will change very quickly if they feel that their dominant culture based upon their religion is threatened.

And just saying that all religions should be guaranteed freedom of religious belief, is to tolerate the Aum cult, the Thugees, the Branch Davidians, Jimmy Jones and his lunatics, or the Maharajah Rajneesh and his gang of terrorist nutcases. It was because of the extreme tolerance of religious belief in Japan that the Tokyo subway got poisoned with nerve gas.
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 13 June 2021 2:13:45 AM
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Hi LEGO:- We are completely, totally & utterly wasting our time attempting to have a conversation with these primitive, subhuman animals.

Leftism is a viral mental illness. The damage done to the brain by leftism is so extremely severe that leftism's victims are rendered incapable of reasonable, rational, logical thought processes.

After the jack boot is standing on their throat. After they have been knocked to the ground, by a rifle but smashing into their face. Then they will wake up, in the back of a military transport truck on the way to the labour camp.

Only then will leftists realise what they have done.
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Sunday, 13 June 2021 7:58:11 AM
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Who cares! Murray is obsessed with Malaysia. Pointless (the Malaysian government isn't listening) comments only encourage him. The country is a nice, generally safe place to visit. The population gets on with each other, and we need to be concentrating on our own dunghill.

LEGO,

Alan B is the only one who knows what Alan B raves about.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 13 June 2021 10:20:18 AM
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ttbn. Don't blame me if you're too thick to comprehend considered sage advice when it is presented.

The bible says, do not cast your pearls before swine.

Ever wonder if that Quote includes oink, oink as thick as two bricks, folk like you?

You'll have a nice oink, oink day now, y'hear.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 13 June 2021 12:47:36 PM
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Sorry Alan, I got it wrong. You don't know what you are raving about either; so why would anyone else.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 13 June 2021 1:13:07 PM
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