No Arabs - no problems.

Risible rubbish! Or put another way complete C.R.A.P!

First, the whole thing was precipitated by totally unnecessary strongarm tactics by Nethenyahu's over-zealous Israeli police and the continuing annexation of occupied Palestinian land by settlers in complete contravention of international law.

Stop blaming the hornets for stinging if you continue to poke sticks into the hive, dummy!

Get the deleted expletive Illegal settlers out. Otherwise, declare another war and go in butchering everything that moves. let's not sugarcoat this last episode, staged managed by Netheyahu to save his political bacon and allow, I believe, a corrupt court system to treat him far less severely while he retains the political power of a P.M.

That's is what is in play here as is the gerrymander only made possible by the continuing immigration and illegal settlements!

David, why don't you go get your name legally changed from David Singer to Bruce Singer? At least then, most of what you write could be correctly identified by your new initials!
Alan B.

Alan,

What an angry old anti-Semite you are.

This article is so vile, so full of racist slurs and Israeli propaganda, that I vehemently support its publication as free speech.

Gee that Nethenyahu must be smart Alan, managing to fire 2000 rockets at himself & his population from enemy territory, with out being noticed.

Perhaps he's a good hacker & Hamas have hooked their rockets up to the net for him.

I much prefer the essay by Chris Hedges titled Israel The Big Lie on the Scheer Post website, or alternatively Israel Is Carrying out Mass Murder on the Common Dreams website.

There has been an upsurge in anti-Semitism on the streets of London since the start of the latest conflict between Israel and Hamas. It has been suggested Jews should not walk to the synagogue alone. Where are all the BLM supporters, knee-takers and anti-racists now! They are rubbing shoulders with lunatics screaming "kill the Jews": that's where they are. These bastards are not even pretending to differentiate between Jewish people and the country of Israel any more.

Well I decided to read through all the posts up until this point to see whether the usual shills for the slaughterers of the IDF would be once again out in force. It seems based on the number of posters (rather than the number of posts since our resident gnat managed three in quick succession including managing to put this proposition “No Arabs - no problems.” then follow it with “These bastards are not even pretending to differentiate between Jewish people and the country of Israel any more.” without blinking) the balance may be returning.

This country was always known for its support of the underdog. This went missing over recent years and Australia's voting with the US and Israel on matters concerning the Palestinians when the rest of the world called it out . I know it will take a change of government for that self respect to return but the signs are heartening.

Meanwhile another revealing aspect of the systematic plot/strategy which actually amplifies Palestinian (completely justified) animosity to the Zionist project is described in an essay on the always excellent Intercept site titled Tax Exempt US Noprofits Fuel Israeli Settler Push To evict Palestinians.

Gee hasbeen, you're getting sillier! You don't even have to load the gun to get a conflict happening over there, just have your police service arrive at this or that border crossing and start turning back folk going about their legitimate business.

Netanyahu arranged this by using his police force as described. Just to stay on as P.M.

Nowhere have I suggested he fired the rockets, by has responded with brutal force. to escalate the crisis and bloodletting as much as possible.

To think before Netanyahu there was a negotiated ad agreed peace deal and viable two-state solution on the table! Now look at it and the subsequent death toll caused by the hard right, who are the only ones served by the scrapping of that hard-won agreement and Mr Nethanyahu's intransigence and B.S., political posturing.

You have to b really stupid to read in that I for a second, suggested Nethanyahu was firing rockets at himself. But he is served politically and at his upcoming trial for official corruption by this turn of events and distraction?

Suggest in future you engage brain before putting mouth into gear with a racing change.

Better the world suspects you are a fool, than open your mouth to remove all doubt.
Alan B.

Oh god Alan. You blame Netanyahu, & I want to know how he is responsible for firing 3000 rockets indescribably into civilian populations

I find it hard to believe you lefties can approve of & side with simple terror tactics used against civilians.

What justification can there be for the murder of innocent children? Netanyahu orchestrated these murderous atrocities for his own political purposes. The man is a war criminal in the same category of a Hitler or a Himmler and should face justice before an international war crimes tribunal.

I wonder why the left whinge posters are almost invariably antisemites and why these hate-filled left whingers think that it is acceptable for Hamas murderers and terrorists to fire 1000s of anti personnel missiles at civilian areas from populated areas that would lead to 100s of dead civilians if Israel didn't intercept most Hamas rockets or show incredible restraint in retaliating.

Thought this belonged here too.

To all the apologists and shills for the Israeli government.

Overnight the IDF bombed three buildings in a-Rimal. The list of dead thus far.

Amin Muhammad al-Qoalaq, 90 years old
Sa'diyah Yusef al-Qoalaq, 84 years old
Bahaa Amin Muhammad al-Qoalaq, 48 years old
Fawaz A,on Muhammad al-Qoalaq, 62 years old
Riham Fawaz Amin al-Qoalaq, 32 years old
Abd al-Hamid Fawaz al-Qoalaq, 22 years old
Sameh Fawaz Amin al-Qoalaq, 28 years old
Ayat Ibrahim Khalil al-Qoalaq, 19 years old
Qusai Sameh Fawaz al-Qoalaq, 6 months
Du'aa 'Omar 'Abdallah al-Qoalaq, 38 years old
Muhammad Mu'in Muhammad al-Qoalaq, 41 years old
Hala Muhammad Mu'in al-Qoalaq, 13 years old
Yara Muhammad Mu'in al-Qoalaq, 9 years old
Rula Muhammad Mu'in al-Qoalaq, 6 years old
Amal Jamil Salameh al-Qoalaq, 42 years old
Hanaa Shukri Amin al-Qoalaq, 14 years old
Ahmad Shukri Amin al-Qoalaq, 15 years old
Taher Shukri Amin al-Qoalaq, 23 years old
Izat Mu'in Muhammad al-Qoalaq, 44 years old
Adam 'Izat Mu'in al-Qoalaq, 3 years old
Zeid 'Izat Mu'in al-Qoalaq, 8 years old
Abeer Nimer 'Ali Ishkuntana, 29 years old
Zein Riyad Hassan Ishkuntana, 2 years old
Yihia Riyad Hassan Ishkuntana, 4 years old
Dana Riyad Hassan Ishkuntana, 9 years old
Ayman Tawfiq Isma'il Abu al-'Oaf, 49 years old
Tawfiq Ayman Tawfiq Abu al-'Oaf, 17 years old
Tala Ayman Tawfiq Abu al-'Oaf, 13 years old
Rawan 'Alaa Subhi Abu al-'Oaf, 19 years old
Rim Ahmad Khalil Abu al-'Oaf, 40 years old
Dima Rami Riyad al-Afranji, 15 years old
Hazem 'Adel Na'im al-Qame', 48 years old
Mu'in Ahmad Hassan ak-'Alul, 66 years old
Luai Muhammad Ahmad 'Odeah, 54 years old
Khitam Salim al-Qoalaq, 52 Years old
Lana Riyad Hassan Ishkuntana, years old
Subhiyeh Isma'il Abi al-'Oaf, 73 years old
Majdiyeh Khalil Abu al- 'Oaf, 82 years old
Rajaa Subhi al-Afranji, 41 years old
Amir Rami Riyad al-Afranji, 9 years old
Yazan Rami Riyad al-Afranji, 13 years old
Mira Rami Riyad al-Afranji, 11 years old
Muhammad Eki, 40 years old

You are all complicit.

Steele, the likes of ttbn "No Arabs - no problems." and Hasbeen who some time back on the Forum put forward the idea that 200 million innocent men, women and children in Pakistan should be attacked with nuclear weapons have no concern for human life other than their own and others like themselves.

Qusai Sameh Fawaz al-Qoalaq, 6 months, a real terrorist, in their book. His only crime is the poor innocent child was a Palestinian.

The Americans didn't support Nazi genocide against the Jews, why are they supporting Zionist genocide against Palestinians. Joe Biden's public response to the latest Zionist outrage is pathetic at best.

SR,

Once again you have shown yourself to be an apologist and shill for the Hamas terrorists and antisemitic.

The list is lifted from a pro-Hamas website with zero credibility. Hamas started the war and continues it by firing rockets to kill civilians while using its own civilians as shields.

SR you are both complicit and a disgrace.

shonkyminister,

If you give me your address I'll move in, along with a half dozen Bovver Boys to protect me from the previous occupant. You can move into the dog kennel out the back. Are you okay with that?

shadowminister,

You write: “The list is lifted from a pro-Hamas website with zero credibility.”. No it isn't you utter knob, I took it from the Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories called B'Tselem. http://www.btselem.org/.

You are an A-grade fool and tool for the IDF propagandist machine. Are you really going to claim these people did not die? That the children were not blown up or crushed below buildings? What is your agenda here? Why is anyone who is questioning this slaughter a jew-hater in your eyes? I really don't understand what skin you have in this game other than the tainted ideology you use to puff up your sense of belonging.

SR,

You moronic twat, of course, it is pro Hamas. Just read the articles.

Given the source of the information, I am not even convinced that these are names of people that even existed and your history of regurgitating Hamas lies is gold plated as is your hatred of Jewish people.

When you quote a reliable source then we can discuss the issues, until then I will simply call out your BS.

Could SR be losing his Google ability, be & having to descend to lefty sights entirely?

Hassy,

Being an old gung-ho petrol head and fly boy yourself, surly given that Israel has nuclear weapons you could suggest the perfect "final solution" they should employ to deal with those pesky Arabs. Any ideas?

shadowminister,

It's a Jewish organisation, mainly run by Israeli Jews, and it cares about human rights.

But all you see is that it somehow supports Hamas. It doesn't. It calls out human rights abuse and that is what the Israeli Government and the IDF are engaged in.

You are completely amoral, unable to make any distinction that might fray at your hard right ideology. This reduces you to a pathetic mindless autonom, a mindless mouth piece for a despicable, murderous and highly corrupt regime.

Proud of yourself?

SR,

That you refuse to even contemplate the war crimes committed by Hamas or their frequent human rights atrocities shows that not only are you bigoted but are a moral and ethical vacuum, and pathetic mindless mouthpiece for a despicable, murderous and highly corrupt tyranny.

Thank you for posting up that official HAMAS declaration, David Singer, it confirms what I have been repeating for years on this site about the Israel/ Muslim problem.

Just as Hitler once declared that wherever a German soldier sets foot, that becomes German land forever and must be defended to the death, the Muslims think exactly the same way as the Nazi leader they so admire.

Wherever Islam has conquered, that is Islamic land forever, and can never revert to infidel control. This is especially so for the so called "holy land" where Israel's most sacred temple was once built. By taking Jerusalem and building a mosque right on top of the Jews most holy place, the Muslims were symbolically telling the Jews that their religion was finished.

By retaking Jerusalem from the Muslims, the Jews have symbolically displayed to the Muslims that they are back. That is anathema to the Muslims. So nothing but the complete subjugation of Israel and it's reversion to total Muslim control is acceptable to the Muslim world.

One can only wonder at the IQ's of western trendies who actually oppose Israel's right to defend itself, and instead support the bloody Muslims. Talk about dumb. Of course, it was not always that way for the trendy lefties. In 1967 the lefties supported Israel because everybody knew that they were going to get crushed by the Arabs. And Israel with their kibbutz's was seen to be successful socialist co-operative farms. every lefty wanted to go to Israel and work on a kibbutz. It was a very fashionable thing to do.

But Israel's crime, as far as the left was concerned, was they kept winning their wars. And lefties hate winners. So the left simply changed sides.

Now we have a new generation of trendy millenials who are unable to think for themselves, and who have been programmed to think "Israel bad, Palestinians good". And you have to just blindly accept that fact or you are going to get shunned by your latte sucking mates.

LEGO, glad to see you're back, how was that Nuremberg Rally? Hope you got to march in the torch light procession. On this subject, as one of your despised "lefties", in fact I'm a moderate progressive who believes in the right of the state of Israel to exist. I also believe the Palestinians have the right to a safe and secure homeland for themselves, something the Zionists refuse to allow. The recent attacks on innocent civilians by both sides cannot be justified, murder is murder, regardless of how you view it.

Dear Paul1405,

Indeed, and I thought this was rather telling:

"Just as Hitler once declared that wherever a German soldier sets foot, that becomes German land forever and must be defended to the death, the Muslims think exactly the same way as the Nazi leader they so admire."

That is exactly the situation in the West Bank where house demolitions, land theft and the injection of the civilian population of the occupying forces continues.

Projection writ large one would think.

Pauliar,

The Palestinians have been offered a state of their own more than once so don't lie.

Hi Phillip, could I first say that I admire your trolling skills? I have found lefties on debate sites to be very easy meat, and I am banned from two left wing debate sites (New Matilda, and Debate and Relate.) because the resident lefties are too frightened to mix it with me. I talk too much sense. And to sort of paraphrase Jack Nicholson, "They cant handle the truth!"

No wonder the lefties, contrary to their claim to be the defenders of free speech throughout their history, now want to ban it?

But at least you get up on your hind legs and have a go, Phillip, however peculiar and amorphous your logic. I still have hope for you. Turn away from the Dark Side, Phillip. You are on the wrong side. But I know that would be difficult to be a traitor to your chardonnay sucking class. All your brain washed Millennial mates would shun you if you started thinking straight.

Now correct me if I have your premise wrong, but you seem to be suggesting this?

That the war is all the fault of the nasty Zionist Fascists, who just will not give those nice Palestinian guys a state. And if only the nasty Zionist Fascists gave the poor Palestinians "Statehood", the Palestinians would be happy with that, and the war would be over?

Now, is that your position? If you seriously want to debate this and put your beliefs to the test, you must state your position and defend it's logic. If you have to play trolling games and refuse to state your position, then as far as I am concerned, you lost at the post. You will not debate fairly, because you already know that your side is wrong, or your arguments are vestigial because your research is near zero.

As for your premise, if I got it right, (correct me if I am wrong)? Then all I can do, is shake my head in pitying wonder at that premise. What is it like down in the garden, dancing with the fairies, Phillip?